Korean Peace Talks

Originally posted by Surtur
True, but I don't think they ever signed anything like what they just signed. I don't think the previous administration had a summit with NK.

If nothing else...this probably eased tensions.

Not true. As Bruce Klinger noted, "This is very disappointing. Each of the four main points was in previous documents with NK, some in a stronger, more encompassing way. The denuke bullet is weaker than the Six Party Talks language. And no mention of CVID, verification, human rights."

Originally posted by Playmaker
Not true. As Bruce Klinger noted, "This is very disappointing. Each of the four main points was in previous documents with NK, some in a stronger, more encompassing way. The denuke bullet is weaker than the Six Party Talks language. And no mention of CVID, verification, human rights."

Interesting.

I like how ABC spun this as "Trump called him honorable!" For like 15 minutes.

No, he didn't.

Originally posted by cdtm
I like how ABC spun this as "Trump called him honorable!" For like 15 minutes.

No, he didn't.

I've heard people whine about everything from the flags to the fact Trump didn't try some aggressive handshake on Kim.

Seems obvious people were studying every single second of this just looking for something to critique Trump about.

I forget which leader said this one line, but it goes like: "If I walked on water the next days headline would say I can't swim". It seems to fit.

Originally posted by Surtur
I've heard people whine about everything from the flags to the fact Trump didn't try some aggressive handshake on Kim.

Really, I read an article that said both individuals were trying agressive handshakes. Some body language experts or something.

Currently reading through the transcript of the post-summit press conference that Trump held, a seriously exhilarating read. Trump's on top form in the conference, really expounding on every detail of his meeting with Kim. I really hope things keep going as positively as this with the whole situation, I mean this is historic enough as it is, but it could end up being something genuinely world-changing.

What did Obama get the Nobel Peace Prize for, again?

Originally posted by Playmaker
Not true. As Bruce Klinger noted, "This is very disappointing. Each of the four main points was in previous documents with NK, some in a stronger, more encompassing way. The denuke bullet is weaker than the Six Party Talks language. And no mention of CVID, verification, human rights."

Bingo.

But don't worry, Trump went on record today and said "something will be done" in regards to NK's massive human rights violation.

Originally posted by Robtard
Bingo.

But don't worry, Trump went on record today and said "something will be done" in regards to NK's massive human rights violation.

Doing a better job then Obama ever did.

And that is a BIG BINGO!!!!

Originally posted by Robtard
Bingo.

But don't worry, Trump went on record today and said "something will be done" in regards to NK's massive human rights violation.

Direct quote:

QUESTION: Would you ever consider removing the sanctions without significant improvement in the human rights situation?

TRUMP: No, I want significant improvement. I want to know that it won’t be happening. And, again, once you start that process, there’ll be a point at which even though you won’t be finished for a while because it can happen scientifically or mechanically but you’re not going to be able to go back. You know, once we reach that point, I’ll start to give that very serious thought.

Can't edit my post but here's the source:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/12/trumps-optimistic-news-conference-after-meeting-with-kim-jong-un-annotated/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.84f8701802ad

Originally posted by Scribble
Yes he did.

Direct quote:

QUESTION: Would you ever consider removing the sanctions without significant improvement in the human rights situation?

TRUMP: No, I want significant improvement. I want to know that it won’t be happening. And, again, once you start that process, there’ll be a point at which even though you won’t be finished for a while because it can happen scientifically or mechanically but you’re not going to be able to go back. You know, once we reach that point, I’ll start to give that very serious thought.

He previously had said: "We will continue that [denuke] and I think that ultimately we will agree to something." -Trump, in regards to human rights in NK.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Doing a better job then Obama ever did.

And that is a BIG BINGO!!!! [/B]

Imagine if he got the support of most liberals?

Then what would you do?

"Trump is doing a good job!"

"Damn skippy!"

"...wait, aren't you a liberal? Trump sucks!"

Originally posted by cdtm
Imagine if he got the support of most liberals?

Then what would you do?

"Trump is doing a good job!"

"Damn skippy!"

"...wait, aren't you a liberal? Trump sucks!"

Better a Liberal then a Leftist.

Big Diff Between those two groups.

😱

Originally posted by Robtard

He previously had said: "We will continue that [denuke] and I think that ultimately we will agree to something." -Trump, in regards to human rights in NK.

Another link to the full press conference: https://www.vox.com/world/2018/6/12/17452624/trump-kim-summit-transcript-press-conference-full-text

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
nothing happened besides rambling word salads and a dictator getting his little knob polished by our so called president, who went on to berate his own military as "provocative". absolutely f*cking nothing was accomplished. but watch the dummies cheer.

I don't have a problem with Trump putting the US-SK military drills on temporary hold, it's a solid sign of good faith and it cost virtually** nothing, I did laugh though when Trump outright aped Kim in calling what the US military does in SK as "provocative". Trumper's of course will praise Trump mimicking Kim Jong-un.

**South Korea isn't happy about it though, as they see it as a wedge between US and SK relations/alliance.

More needs to happen before this summit can be called a success.

As has already been pointed out, agreements with similar if not more comprehensive wording have been signed in the past and led to nothing. The only thing 'historic' about this summit at the moment is the pomp and fanfare of a US President meeting with the leader of North Korea. However, without significant concessions from NK this will only serve to legitimatise the regime and act as a win for Kim.

On the other hand Trump can't be dumb enough not to know that he has staked his political career on this, if the talks fall through their will be no consolation prize. He'll be remembered as the President who got duped by Kim into strengthening his position and his reputation as a "deal-maker" (assuming it exists) will be shot.

In other words there should be no lack of political will on Trump's part to see this through.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
More needs to happen before this summit can be called a success.

As has already been pointed out, agreements with similar if not more comprehensive wording have been signed in the past and led to nothing. The only thing 'historic' about this summit at the moment is the pomp and fanfare of a US President meeting with the leader of North Korea. However, without significant concessions from NK this will only serve to legitimatise the regime and act as a win for Kim.

Exactly. Talking is nice, but it's also cheap.

If negotiations actually take action this time around, going to be hilarious if Trump uses the Iran-Deal as a footprint for the NK-Deal and the same people (including Trump) who called that a disaster previously now praise it.

Speaking of Iran, they got the best deal under Trump, they seemingly get to keep most of their previously frozen assets but they don't have to abide by any rules since Trump walked it all back. Kim's going to be looking for similar.

"Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!" -Trump via Twitter 6/13/18

Ballsy and possibly retarded move as N.K. has yet to agree to anything, so this could blow up in Trump's orange face if N.K doesn't agree to a complete denuclearization. If they actually do though, give him the NPP.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!" -Trump via Twitter 6/13/18

Ballsy and possibly retarded move as N.K. has yet to agree to anything, so this could blow up in Trump's orange face if N.K doesn't agree to a complete denuclearization. If they actually do though, give him the NPP.

Actually, that's part of influencing people to do what you want. When you leave a sales discussion with a major client and it ends on a very clear positive note but the details have not been solidified, you're supposed to speak and operate under the notion that it is a done deal (but stay away from details) while complimenting the client.

You're supposed to reinforce the client's decision that it's clearly a good move/smart move while talking about how you're looking forward to ironing out the details.

This is Trump the businessman talking.