Originally posted by quanchi112
Examples of her showing her superior speed to beat someone of Thanos’ caliber.
You and your tactics. She has super-speed, she's used it in combat. Period.
Now show me examples of Thanos beating someone of her super-speed levels without using the IF/stones. You can't; because they don't exist.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Yeah I've seen DC fans make that point too. I'm definitely not comfortable with making any of them flat out speedsters, but I'm equally not comfortable disregarding WWs many speed feats or amping Thanos to levels of speed he hasn't shown. TBH it's a comic book movie. It makes more sense to chalk some stuff up to PIS and just use the characters high and normal showings.I'd rather we just agree that WW is comfortably faster than Thanos based off many feats. That combined with the fact that she has the sword makes the outcome of the fight kind of obvious.
The way I interpret it is that WW can only use her superspeed in brief bursts, like a runner can only run at full speed for a few seconds, simply because we've never seen her zip around continuously fighting at superspeed.
But even if she can bullrush Thanos and try to cut off his head, the question is if she can. When Nebula slashed at Thanos' arm with her sword it simply bounced off. Not sure if this was due to Thanos' natural durability or the infinity stones but it still should be considered. Nebula has some degree of superstrength though not sure how she compares to WW.
Originally posted by RobtardYes, and how did it fare against Steppenwolf ? Did it cut his head off or critically injure him. Let’s forget they were dog piling and she wasn’t alone either.
You and your tactics. She has super-speed, she's used it in combat. Period.Now show me examples of Thanos beating someone of her super-speed levels without using the IF/stones. You can't; because they don't exist.
Hulk is fast. Thanos beat the brakes off him. That’s a win. WW was hit and challenged by that weakling known as Ludendorff.
Originally posted by FrothByte
When Nebula slashed at Thanos' arm with her sword it simply bounced off. Not sure if this was due to Thanos' natural durability or the infinity stones but it still should be considered. Nebula has some degree of superstrength though not sure how she compares to WW.
Thanos also caught Ironman's tech sword with his bare hands and broke it and used it to stab him with it. I don't recall any of the gems glowing when he did this.
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Also the fact that the Russos themselves have said that Thanos is stronger than the Hulk and has impenetrable skin in an interview.
The Iron Man giving Thanos a slight cut could be chalked up as PIS.
And Stormbreaker is a magical item.
Originally posted by InhumanHe also showed the reflexes to fight coordinated attacks from the likes of Tony Stark, Dr. Strange, Gamora, Spider-Man, Star Lord, etc.
Thanos also caught Ironman's tech sword with his bare hands and broke it and used it to stab him with it. I don't recall any of the gems glowing when he did this.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, and how did it fare against Steppenwolf ? Did it cut his head off or critically injure him. Let’s forget they were dog piling and she wasn’t alone either.Hulk is fast. Thanos beat the brakes off him. That’s a win. WW was hit and challenged by that weakling known as Ludendorff.
Oh, she has a sword here? I assumed it was fisticuffs. Then she cuts Thanos up, like she cut Doomsday's arm off. LoL. Giving her a sword is too much, imo.
WW is ridiculously faster than the Hulk; it's not even close. Your example fails to prove your point. Thanos never beat anyone as fast as WW when he didn't have the glove and one or more stones.
Originally posted by RobtardSo you believe she wins in a fight. 😂
Oh, she has a sword here? I assumed it was fisticuffs. Then she cuts Thanos up, like she cut Doomsday's arm off. LoL. Giving her a sword is too much, imo.WW is ridiculously faster than the Hulk; it's not even close. Your example fails to prove your point. Thanos never beat anyone as fast as WW when he didn't have the glove and one or more stones.
Doomsday isn’t as technically sound as Thanos so bad comparison. Thanos seems to be a lot more durable than Doomsday.
Thanos took on multiple opponents faster than he is so what. It’s an advtge she has he can easily overcome. Thanos fighting multiple opponents faster using coordinated attacks meant to distract him is proof he can do so. Steppenwolf hit her and he doesn’t have su[er speed neither did Ludendorff. Examples.
He crushed the Hulk and casually dismissed Thor. Who is the most impressive character WW has defeated ?
Originally posted by Inhuman
Thanos also caught Ironman's tech sword with his bare hands and broke it and used it to stab him with it. I don't recall any of the gems glowing when he did this.***Edit***
Also the fact that the Russos themselves have said that Thanos is stronger than the Hulk and has impenetrable skin in an interview.
The Iron Man giving Thanos a slight cut could be chalked up as PIS.
And Stormbreaker is a magical item.
Good point about IM's sword. I've forgotten about that scene. But I consider IM to roughly around WW's strength range so Thanos easily palming his sword is a good indication that WW won't be able to cut Thanos easily.
And before anyone says "But she cut Doomsday!" I have to ask: What feats does DD have that prove he's more resistant to cutting/piercing attacks than Thanos?
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you believe she wins in a fight. 😂Doomsday isn’t as technically sound as Thanos so bad comparison. Thanos seems to be a lot more durable than Doomsday.
Thanos took on multiple opponents faster than he is so what. It’s an advtge she has he can easily overcome. Thanos fighting multiple opponents faster using coordinated attacks meant to distract him is proof he can do so. Steppenwolf hit her and he doesn’t have su[er speed neither did Ludendorff. Examples.
He crushed the Hulk and casually dismissed Thor. Who is the most impressive character WW has defeated ?
If a fight where Thanos does not have the stones. Thanos wank is hilarious; but expected. He is the new shiny.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Good point about IM's sword. I've forgotten about that scene. But I consider IM to roughly around WW's strength range so Thanos easily palming his sword is a good indication that WW won't be able to cut Thanos easily.And before anyone says "But she cut Doomsday!" I have to ask: What feats does DD have that prove he's more resistant to cutting/piercing attacks than Thanos?
He survived a nuclear explosion and reentry into earth's atmosphere and crashing into the ground. Doomsday is pretty damn durable, being formed from Zod's body.
Originally posted by RobtardThe stones don’t amp his reflexes. He showed his reflexes were quick enough to fight them. We see when he uses a stone but that doesn’t alter his own reflexes. I’m arguing based off the films and the dceu wank is expected as well. She did not defeat the weak jla villain with help and a weapon yet you’re going to say she beats Thanos with her bare hands alone. It’s ridiculous and deep down you know it. You won’t admit it but you don’t believe this for a second. It’s like someone giving an excuse to trump everyone knows is bullshit they just won’t admit to.
If a fight where Thanos does not have the stones. Thanos wank is hilarious; but expected. He is the new shiny.
Originally posted by Robtard
He survived a nuclear explosion and reentry into earth's atmosphere and crashing into the ground. Doomsday is pretty damn durable, being formed from Zod's body.
But Doomsday also has a pretty good healing factor. Him surviving a nuclear explosion and reentry might be due to him simply healing from the sustained injury, it doesn't mean his hide is harder to pierce than Thanos.
Besides, piercing/cutting durability is a bit different from durability against concussive attacks or high heat. We know that every cutting/stabbing attack launched against DD successfully pierced him whereas we have feats of similar attacks not harming Thanos.
Originally posted by FrothByte
But Doomsday also has a pretty good healing factor. Him surviving a nuclear explosion and reentry might be due to him simply healing from the sustained injury, it doesn't mean his hide is harder to pierce than Thanos.Besides, piercing/cutting durability is a bit different from durability against concussive attacks or high heat. We know that every cutting/stabbing attack launched against DD successfully pierced him whereas we have feats of similar attacks not harming Thanos.
His body would still have to be durable enough to not be atomized. DD is durable as ****, silly for this to be an issue now.
BvS was shit, so I kinda wiped most of it from my mind. I recall only two things hurting Doomsday, WW cutting off his arm and then being pierced by the k-nite spear, which is specifically his weakness. What else?
Having your arm cut off by WW’s speed isn’t impressive though. Sure he’s durable but magical weapons and impressive weapons clearly affect him despite the nuke. Just as Loki can stab Thor with a magical knife but that doesn’t mean it’s more powerful than the energy of a star that he withstood. Thanos is extremely durable more so than DD.
Originally posted by Robtard
His body would still have to be durable enough to not be atomized. DD is durable as ****, silly for this to be an issue now.BvS was shit, so I kinda wiped most of it from my mind. I recall only two things hurting Doomsday, WW cutting off his arm and then being pierced by the k-nite spear, which is specifically his weakness. What else?
WW is durable enough to take a full headbutt from Superman and doesn't even get a bloody nose yet she was cut in the arm from fighting WW1 soldiers and blocks bullets because they probably can harm her. Like I said, piercing durability in the DCEU is not consistent with their other durability.
All I'm saying is, DD has been pierced by every cutting/piercing attack launched his way whereas Thanos actually has feats of repelling such attacks even when delivered by superpowered opponents.