Avengers: Endgame (2019)

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I didn't say other studios have been taking risks lately.

I have no clue why you immediately jumped to such a conclusion.

You specifically said Marvel movies are not taking risks instead of saying superhero movies in general.
So what one can take from that post is that your target was very specific.
But that's just me. Shrug.

Originally posted by Inhuman
What other superhero movies from other studios have taken risks? Explain.
If taking risks means pretty much copying what the MCU has been doing with the tone and storytelling then I stand corrected.

Logan
Deadpool
Chronicle
The Unbreakable trilogy
V for Vendetta
Kickass
Sin City
Dredd
Upgrade
Birdman
Wanted
Oldboy
Road to Perdition
A History of Violence
Oblivion
Snowpiercer

Most of those were released even before or around the time the MCU started. Thought we were talking about current ones.

Edit: Thanks for reminding me I have to watch Snowpiercer.

Originally posted by Inhuman
You specifically said Marvel movies are not taking risks instead of saying superhero movies in general.
So what one can take from that post is that your target was very specific.
But that's just me. Shrug.

Well, it's not just superhero flicks in general. There are plenty of unique and risky "superhero" movies out there and I hope more like that come out. Therefore, I didn't say "superhero" but rather "Marvel" although "DC" could be substituted in as well.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Logan
Deadpool
Yep, the first two modern/post-MCU films that came to mind.

MCU movies aren't bad. They're just largely homogenized. "Generically good", IMO, with a few rising above that, and a few just being shit.

And I specified Marvel because the DCEU is not generically good, it's just shit (I haven't seen any of the apparently decent to good ones).

Marvel films are very marketable because consumers know exactly what they're going to get.

Consumers typically don't like risks, which is why studios don't like to take them.

Guardians of the Galaxy was a pretty big risk because it had a more unique take and was based on a relatively little-known property. Hell I remember thinking the trailers looked like it could be a major Marvel bomb. But the gamble paid off and it actually become my favorite Marvel films. It certainly helped that it had the Marvel logo attached to it, but I think word of mouth probably convinced people that the trailers didn't do it justice.

Seems the more come out the more the risk is shifting. Non mainstream characters like Shazam and Black Panther seem to fare better nowadays than established characters like Superman, Batman, Fantastic Four and X-Men.

^ Except Fantastic Four isn't an established group with GA, Most of the film adaptations have been garbage compared to the other examples that you brought up.

Originally posted by Kazenji
^ Except Fantastic Four isn't an established group with GA, Most of the film adaptations have been garbage compared to the other examples that you brought up.

Being garbage doesn't mean they're not widely recognised. 3 large releases accompanied by substantial marketing means people know who they are even if they didn't go to theatres to watch the movies.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Logan
Deadpool
Chronicle
The Unbreakable trilogy
V for Vendetta
Kickass
Sin City
Dredd
Upgrade
Birdman
Wanted
Oldboy
Road to Perdition
A History of Violence
Oblivion
Snowpiercer

You can probably add Joker, too.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Marvel films are very marketable because consumers know exactly what they're going to get.

Consumers typically don't like risks, which is why studios don't like to take them.

Guardians of the Galaxy was a pretty big risk because it had a more unique take and was based on a relatively little-known property. Hell I remember thinking the trailers looked like it could be a major Marvel bomb. But the gamble paid off and it actually become my favorite Marvel films. It certainly helped that it had the Marvel logo attached to it, but I think word of mouth probably convinced people that the trailers didn't do it justice.

This is why GOTG is probably my favorite MCU film. Very fresh, that distances itself from most MCU films, which are pretty average at best.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
You can probably add Joker, too.
That movie isn't out yet. 😬

Originally posted by NemeBro
That movie isn't out yet. 😬

I'm pretty sure you can already say it's a risk. It's a character study, FFS. How many MCU/DCEU movies are like that?

Oh Joker is a HUGE risk. Given nobody actually wanted it.

Joker is only a risk in the sense that they risk upsetting fans, but it's a hugely popular character and will draw butts into seats.

Joker is a pop culture icon at this point. DC's most popular villain and maybe the most popular villain in any comics brand.

I don't see how it's a super huge risk. Other than Phoenix trying to treat this role like an art House character study. But that's what Leto did as well, even though the script didn't favor that. In fact Heath Ledger also played The joker in a character study type style too.
So it isn't that original.

Stop talking about that terrible Joker movie here, we have a thread for that

Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
Is this our generation's [original] Star Wars?
easily, anyone who says it isn’t is simply lying or basing it off the lack knowledge.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Glad I'm not the only one. Everyone is such a shill for Marvel these days.

I'd rather support some variety in movies.

That being said, I enjoyed Infinity War, but probably largely because I didn't bother seeing it in theaters.

If I see a movie in theaters I gotta have a drink(usually sprite) and some snacks like candy. My bladder definitely can't last for 3 hours and I wouldn't wanna miss any scenes.