Context is your friend. The question I would like to ask is, if the God of Destructions, Whis, and the Zeno sat down and watched Superman best fights, Superman vs Doomsday, Superman vs Darkseid, etc... the ones we've seen on panel, would they be impressed? My answer to that is hell no, but I would like to hear from the comic book fans. We have guys that was punching so hard that they was warping reality and Goku was withstanding his punch. We have people that was actually keeping up with instantaneous teleportation and he wasnt even the most powerful of the bunch. Moving through time stop with ease. Catching a blast that was going to kill Universal level beings and evaporating it. At a weakened state and was tanking the pressure of a black hole. Lol... Goku was so fast that a character far faster than light couldn't see his movements. Goku was so fast that beings that was easily watching a FTL fight couldnt see Goku punches moving. By the end of DBS, beings that could casually destroy Universes was beneath him. World Breaker Hulk, Superman, Thor, Lantern, Surfer, all of them get their heads punched clean off before they realized what happened. This is a non fight. The best debaters on this forum knows this, it's the second and 3rd tier that needs to keep up. 🙂