Dr. Manhattan vs Thanos

Started by quanchi11218 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
Actually a good point. Just turn the gauntlet into bubbles and the stones fall to the floor. Manhattan knowing his past/present/future at all times (barring tachyon disruption) would know this already.
Different possibilities from the MCU. This isn’t some candy ass watchmen type universe.

Originally posted by Impediment
Manhattan sees his future: Kicking Thanos' big, purple, Grimace looking ass.
Nah, Thanos puts some underwear on this hedonist before he ends him for all time.

If Thanos can alter reality to his whims with just one stone, then why didn't he alter a reality where he had all six stones instead of methodically hunting for them?

Go ahead and turn Manhattan into blocks. He'll just reassemble himself.

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Originally posted by Impediment
If Thanos can alter reality to his whims with just one stone, then why didn't he alter a reality where he had all six stones instead of methodically hunting for them?

Go ahead and turn Manhattan into blocks. He'll just reassemble himself.

He only has control over the limited space or environment he was in. He couldn’t overpower the reality stone. I’d imagine that reality wouldn’t remain that way unless he got all stones in the long term. So how could he affect the entire universe with your plan.

Originally posted by Impediment
Exactly.

Thanos has to snap his fingers, but all Manhattan has to do is think.

Thought>>>>>Physical action.

The question is will he? I mean, as i claimed he is too over confident.

But i agree, Dr.M would be the faster one.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Different possibilities from the MCU. This isn’t some candy ass watchmen type universe.

No, he saw his own past/present/future as it related to him. He makes that clear.

M's still capable of turning the gauntlet into farts with the speed of a thought and then Thanos is proper ****ed.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, he saw his own past/present/future as it related to him. He makes that clear.

M's still capable of turning the gauntlet into farts with the speed of a thought and then Thanos is proper ****ed.

That is in relation to his own universe not if he faces off against Thanos. You don’t get to insert Thanos into that narrative. No, he isn’t. He hasn’t shown anywhere Exar that level of power. He was a pro the only one dominating amateurs in terms of powers. That’s what happens when no one is a threat to you become complacent and weak. Thanos turns him into bubbles. Thanos is the ultimate villain. Manhattan doesn’t stand a chance.

M's powers are being able to see the past/present/future as relating to himself; those powers would transfer over to a Vs match. Might as well argue that the IF gauntlet won't work on M cos he's not from the MCU verse. Let's not get into that petty-style of debating; they both have their powers/abilities in full.

Thanos could one-shot M, true. M's faster though, he only need think about it, Thanos has to close his fist to activate the gauntlet; the movie made a point of this; Dr. Strange told us and showed us.

Originally posted by Robtard
M's powers are being able to see the past/present/future as relating to himself; those powers would transfer over to a Vs match. Might as well argue that the IF gauntlet won't work cos M is not from the MCU verse.

Thanos could one-shot M, true. M's faster though, he only need think about it, Thanos as to close his fist to activate the gaunlet; the movie made a point of this; Dr. Strange told us and showed us.

So you’re saying he can see his demise at the hands of Thanos and unable to alter it. If that’s what you want to argue. He can’t escape his fate. When to Manhattan use this crazy ok going’s to blink you out of existence reaction. Give me an example. We use evidence not power sets. Thanos was fighting multiple opponents at once which is entirely different. How quickly did Manhattan attack Ozy?

Thanos has better reaction feats, faced tougher competition, imposed his will, etc. Manhattan gets wrecked and can’t escape his fate whereas Thanos makes his own fate. Love it.

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If Thanos were to beat him, absolutely. But that's not the case here as shown.

Thanos closing his fist to activate the gauntlet is not faster than the speed of thought. Thanos has to complete a physical action, M does not.

Originally posted by Robtard
If Thanos were to beat him, absolutely. But that's not the case here as shown.

Thanos closing his fist to activate the gauntlet is not faster than the speed of thought. Thanos has to complete a physical action, M does not.

What has been shown. Who has Manhattan affected with this level of power? Killing Rorschach means what?

Give me one instance of Manhattan demonstrating this killer speed of thought. You’re not arguing based off examples you’re just powersetting. Manhattan in character isn’t this I’ll kill you right now in a heartbeat anywa type of character. You can’t ignore the character to reach the conclusion you want while ignoring there’s evidence to suggest he can affect anyone of Thanos’ power in order to do so.

Thanos wins.

What's been shown is that M can use his powers via a thought.

If you're going to impose those rules now, then Thanos is under the same restrictions. How long did he take to activate the gauntlet after Thor impaled him to Stormbreaker? 15-20 seconds? He talked first, Thanos liked to talk a lot before acting.

Nah, he's much slower than M. When both opponents can one-shot each other; speed is a huge factor. Thoughts > Thoughts+Physical action

Originally posted by Robtard
What's been shown is that M can use his powers via a thought.

If you're goin to imply that scenario, then Thanos is under the same scrutiny. How long did he take to activate the gantlet after Thor impaled him to Stormbreaker? 15-20 seconds? He talked first, Thanos liked to talk a lot before acting.

Nah, he's much slower than M. When both opponents can one-shot each other; speed is a huge factor. Thoughts > Thoughts+Physical action

How quickly does he attack though ? You can’t just say ignore who he is and how quickly he attacks because you want him to win. The evidence has to support your conclusion not the other way around.

Thanos he shot a beam. He didn’t wait to attack after he was injured he tacked prior to. You can’t ignore his tick prior to reach your pretty far out conclusion. You’re biased you have never liked Thanos you’ve always been more of a dc guy who loves Batman.

I don’t agree Manhattan can one shot Thanos. He has never shown that level of power. Killing Rorschach maybe passes your smell test but I’m of the evidence based kind of posters. I don’t just assume anything unless there is sufficient evidence to support it.

You can’t give any examples. That’s not how debating works. This is how RJ used to debate. Just making shit up in his own mind.

Originally posted by Impediment
If Stormbreaker can inflict a grievous wound to Thanos' torso, then he can be exploded.

Stormbreaker could kill Thanos, Thanos himself said that Thor 'should've gone for the head' cause that would've ended Thanos

During the scene in Knowhere, when Starlord pointed his gun at Gamora - did Thanos turn the blast into bubbles when it was fired? Or did he alter reality so that bubbles will shoot from the gun whenever Starlord fired?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How quickly does he attack though ? You can’t just say ignore who he is and how quickly he attacks because you want him to win. The evidence has to support your conclusion not the other way around.

Thanos he shot a beam. He didn’t wait to attack after he was injured he tacked prior to. You can’t ignore his tick prior to reach your pretty far out conclusion. You’re biased you have never liked Thanos you’ve always been more of a dc guy who loves Batman.

I don’t agree Manhattan can one shot Thanos. He has never shown that level of power. Killing Rorschach maybe passes your smell test but I’m of the evidence based kind of posters. I don’t just assume anything unless there is sufficient evidence to support it.

You can’t give any examples. That’s not how debating works. This is how RJ used to debate. Just making shit up in his own mind.

Since it's been proven that Manhattan can attack faster as he only needs to think, while Thanos needs to think and do a physical move in order to activate the stones, you're now insisting that Manhattan isn't going to attack right away and just let Thanos get off an attack first. It's a silly tactic.

Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
During the scene in Knowhere, when Starlord pointed his gun at Gamora - did Thanos turn the blast into bubbles when it was fired? Or did he alter reality so that bubbles will shoot from the gun whenever Starlord fired?

Latter

Originally posted by Robtard
Since it's been proven that Manhattan can attack faster as he only needs to think, while Thanos needs to think and do a physical move in order to activate the stones, you're now insisting that Manhattan isn't going to attack right away and just let Thanos get off an attack first. It's a silly tactic.
So you continue to repeat yourself and can’t give any examples since people can think at varying degrees. You already conceded when you didn’t list any examples. Thanos wins. Manhattan also didn’t show the power to override the infinity gauntlet due to affecting no one near this level of power before. You need to prove your case with examples not just made up believe me RJ style of debating.

Honestly, I think we should wait until the sequel to answer this, in particular to see how he wields the Mind Stone and Soul Stone. Physically, there is nothing Thanos can do, but if Thanos could control Doc's Mind/Soul on a metaphysical level, he could win. But, as stated, he doesn't really have any feats showcasing the Mind or Soul Stones.