Originally posted by quanchi112
What happened to. Magneto’s family? Metal was around, kiddo. Yeah, strange wins via cape to face and portal for the win.
Magneto was emotional over his daughter and wasn't thinking straight; as soon as he realized that metal was around he killed them all easily...
This is a forum fight...
Magneto will not be clouded by emotion and the starting distance is 100 yards; Magneto senses the metal in Stranges hands and destroys him utterly as soon as the bell rings...
Magneto wins 10/10...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSo you admit he didn’t even realize it at first so how would he just know what’s in Strange’s hands in a nanosecond. Nah, cape flies and blocks his vision. Portal for the win. Strange is too much for this joker.
Magneto was emotional over his daughter and wasn't thinking straight; as soon as he realized that metal was around he killed them all easily...This is a forum fight...
Magneto will not be clouded by emotion and the starting distance is 100 yards; Magneto senses the metal in Stranges hands and destroys him utterly as soon as the bell rings...
Magneto wins 10/10...
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit he didn’t even realize it at first so how would he just know what’s in Strange’s hands in a nanosecond. Nah, cape flies and blocks his vision. Portal for the win. Strange is too much for this joker.
Magneto has done it before; over distances that he couldn't see even...
Magneto wins easily via weakness exploitation...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSo you’re just making it up. Per the norm. He didn’t protect his own family something more important to him than anything else against village cops. Strange protects reality gtfo with Magneto.
Magneto has done it before; over distances that he couldn't see even...Magneto wins easily via weakness exploitation...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Weakness exploitation is always a legit tactic...Despite me really liking Sorcerer Supreme Strange, the good Doctor loses badly here in both senario's...
Magneto wins 10/10 without much effort...
Congratulations, you completely missed the point of my post.
The point was that winning by going for Strange's hands doesn't mean that he is actually a more formidable fighter than Strange. Just that Strange specifically had a weakness Mags could exploit. A weakness he would not be able to exploit if he fought another sorcerer on Strange's level. In other words, a cheap win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what?
Based on the fact that he is perfectly willing and capable of doing this like this.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Congratulations, you completely missed the point of my post.The point was that winning by going for Strange's hands doesn't mean that he is actually a more formidable fighter than Strange. Just that Strange specifically had a weakness Mags could exploit. A weakness he would not be able to exploit if he fought another sorcerer on Strange's level. In other words, a cheap win.
I didn't miss your point at all...
Magneto is a bad match up for Strange...
Who cares if the win is perceived as cheap...
If Deadshot fought Alisa Jones and shot her dead, is it a cheap win because he didn't try to fight her hand to hand?
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Based on the fact that he is perfectly willing and capable of doing this like this.
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Magneto wins...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I didn't miss your point at all...Magneto is a bad match up for Strange...
Who cares if the win is perceived as cheap...
If Deadshot fought Alisa Jones and shot her dead, is it a cheap win because he didn't try to fight her hand to hand?
You clearly care enough to reply twice.
And that is a really bad comparison. Deadshot can shoot anyone in the head (or at least shoot at anyone's head). Magneto can't just manipulate anyone's hands.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Congratulations, you completely missed the point of my post.The point was that winning by going for Strange's hands doesn't mean that he is actually a more formidable fighter than Strange. Just that Strange specifically had a weakness Mags could exploit. A weakness he would not be able to exploit if he fought another sorcerer on Strange's level. In other words, a cheap win.
I respectfully disagree. Fact is this is exactly why Magnetos power is so dangerous. Metal is everywhere. So I dont see it as a specific weakness.
He can instantly own Iron Man as well, but no one stops to ask if hed be a match for someone with all of Iron Mans abilities except with no metal him. Same with Colossus, same with Wolverine.
Fact with Strange is, he wouldnt even be Sorcerer Supreme if it wasnt For his hands being damaged.
In any case I always felt Apoc Mags would be in Stranges League.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I respectfully disagree. Fact is this is exactly why Magnetos power is so dangerous. Metal is everywhere. So I dont see it as a specific weakness.
Can Magneto directly manipulate Wong's hands? How about the Ancient One? Mordo? Kaecilius?
How is it not a specific weakness when Strange has something in his hands the vast majority of people don't that make him specifically more susceptible to Magneto's powers?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He can instantly own Iron Man as well, but no one stops to ask if hed be a match for someone with all of Iron Mans abilities except with no metal him. Same with Colossus, same with Wolverine.
Except I have seen Versus threads where people do exactly that. Match him up against those types of characters but stipulate that the people are demagnitised/directly immune for the purpose of the specific fight.
Here is an example I found after literally 5 seconds of searching, with their movie versions specifically, pulled from one of the many sites that have these kinds of threads:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/iron-man-vs-magneto-movie-versions-read-op-1614202/
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Fact with Strange is, he wouldnt even be Sorcerer Supreme if it wasnt For his hands being damaged.
I fail to see how this is relevant as to whether it's a handicap in this match up or not.
I mean he cant manipulate the Thing but can manipulate Colossus.
He cant manipulate Beast but can manipulate Black Panther.
He cant manipulate Palpatine but can manipulate Vader.
So my point is its usually a 50/50 with Magneto if he can instantly own someone or not. Its just the danger of his power with metal being used in almost everything. And the ridiculous ease with which he controls metal. So I dont see it as an unfair advantage, or weakness exploitation. Weakness exploitation would be using Kryptonite against Superman.
Then if we add in his Apoc powers, of an invulnerable magnetic shield and control over the Earth as well, it just vastly increases his chances against that other 50% of combatants.