Dr. Strange vs. Magneto

Started by TheVaultDweller14 pages

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I mean he cant manipulate the Thing but can manipulate Colossus.

He cant manipulate Beast but can manipulate Black Panther.

He cant manipulate Palpatine but can manipulate Vader.

So my point is its usually a 50/50 with Magneto if he can instantly own someone or not. Its just the danger of his power with metal being used in almost everything. And the ridiculous ease with which he controls metal. So I dont see it as an unfair advantage, or weakness exploitation. Weakness exploitation would be using Kryptonite against Superman.

Then if we add in his Apoc powers, of an invulnerable magnetic shield and control over the Earth as well, it just vastly increases his chances against that other 50% of combatants.

Okay. I will sum this up with a simple question. Would Magneto have an easier or harder time defeating Strange if there was no metal in his hands? Based on your initial response to this thread, I imagine your answer would be harder. And if your answer is harder, then I fail to see how you cannot consider him targeting Strange's hands as weakness exploitation. So, guess we will have to agree to disagree on that.

But answer me this. What feats does his forcefield have to suggest it's invulnerable?

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Based on the fact that he is perfectly willing and capable of doing this like this.

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So you’re proof is a scene of a guy not even aware of someone setting him up or actively engaging him in a fight with no powers. Strange has the cape cover his face right away.

Magneto wins...

Can't believe this is even debatable!

Strange wins! He is simply above Magneto's league. PERIOD.

Normal Mags might win some. Planetary Magneto stomps.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Magneto wins...
Nah, cape to the face. Strange wins.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Metal in his hands...

Mags can detect the presence of metal readily; even at considerable distance...

This is a disaster matchup for Strange as a result...

Metal in his hands mr.LOM??

Do you know what kind of metal is in it's hands? Go research, then come back and reconsider your words.

Stainless steel.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Stainless steel.

Aye, Stainless steel. Not the best magnetic material.

Furthermore, prosthetic surgeries like the one Dr. Strange had uses Stainless Steel 316 or Austenitic Stainless Steel, which isn't a magnetic material/metal.

I was under the impression magneto could mess with all metals due to super hero logic.

They kind of phucked that up in the films. Because, based on all the films before X-Men Apocalypse, it was just control of all metals. Callisto even described it as such in X3, when Mags and Pyro go on a Brotherhood recruiting drive:

“That and more, I know that you control metal, and I know there are eighty-seven mutants in here and none above a Class Three, other than you two.”

But in X-Men Apocalypse, it was very clearly manipulation of magnetic fields.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
How is the cape going to get through mag's shrapnel bubble that even quicksilver couldn't get through?

To be fair, Magneto needed quite a bit of prep time to put up that shield.

Hm. Well either way, very powerful magnets can still effect 316 stainless steel. Since magneto was effecting metals all over the world, I'm sure he's strong enough to trigger the paramagnetic properties in the pins in strange's hands.

If that doesn't work, he still wears that broken watch, right?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Hm. Well either way, very powerful magnets can still effect 316 stainless steel. Since magneto was effecting metals all over the world, I'm sure he's strong enough to trigger the paramagnetic properties in the pins in strange's hands.

If that doesn't work, he still wears that broken watch, right?

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Interestingly enough, based on the dialogue in this scene, Apocalypse doesn't actually necessarily amp Magneto. More like helps him get over a mental block to his full potential.

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The movie wasn't great as a whole, but I thought this scene was pretty good.

Film Magneto's powers are described as "controls metal". Magnetism has never been a factor as far as I know

Before X-Men: Apocalypse, I would have agreed. But they specifically mention him screwing with magnetic fields at the end of the film, IIRC, when they mention that he was going to destroy everything built since the Bronze Age. Plus, look at the pattern at 1:55 odd in the clip I posted. That's magnetism.

Maybe he can control both metal and magnetic fields? I really don't know at this point.

Here we go, from about 0:50 onwards:

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I was just going to ask for that second clip. Thanks.

In that first clip it could be argued that those lines were just a result of the metal moving but that second clip does kinda spell out "magnetism"

I'm not sure if it's solely magnetism or if it's a combination. I'd like to think it's both but I dunno off hand if he has manipulated anything non magnetic

Originally posted by juggerman
I was just going to ask for that second clip. Thanks.

In that first clip it could be argued that those lines were just a result of the metal moving but that second clip does kinda spell out "magnetism"

I'm not sure if it's solely magnetism or if it's a combination. I'd like to think it's both but I dunno off hand if he has manipulated anything non magnetic

That first one on the ground is a magnetic field pattern. You can see the resemblance here.