Originally posted by The Spectre+
Bcos some have made the claim that since supes aint skilled he's gonna lose. so show instances where hulk fights with skill.
Saying that Superman loses due to his lack of skill is not the same as saying the Hulk is skilled. you would be better served asking why Superman's obvious lack of skill would tip the fight in Hulk's favor. instead of trying to strawmen people.
Originally posted by The Spectre+Hulk is stronger than Superman and he was able to deal with Thor’s superior skill. Thor has skill on Hulk and Superman and since Hulk has shown the ability to counter I’d say Superman gets the brakes beaten off him.
Based on JL movie supes takes this 9.9/10. And for those who say superman is not skilled, show us a fight in which hulk displayed good h2h fighting skills.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Superman is much stronger and more durable, as well as a better fighter (it's not often you hear that one lmao).Hulk's reach is much higher, but it won't really matter. Superman can palm Hulk's punches and every punch he throws will break bones, at the least.
Why is Superman much stronger and more durable?
Explain, the reasoning behind these statements.
you see, therein lies the danger for hulk > he faced a thor who you can say is skill based(and still lost/did not win). But this time he will face someone who's ready to trade blow for blow. And we know(at least i know) supes punches are stronger,and can grow stronger.
Yes,brawling is what hulk knows how to do best but when you face a better brawler, (by feats) you got to lose.
Originally posted by The Spectre+
you see, therein lies the danger for hulk > he faced a thor who you can say is skill based(and still lost/did not win). But this time he will face someone who's ready to trade blow for blow. And we know(at least i know) supes punches are stronger,and can grow stronger.Yes,brawling is what hulk knows how to do best but when you face a better brawler, (by feats) you got to lose.
I'm curious what makes you say Superman hits harder? He doesn't have any striking feat to compare to the leviathan punch or even the Surtur smash.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm curious what makes you say Superman hits harder? He doesn't have any striking feat to compare to the leviathan punch or even the Surtur smash.
His headbutt made diana smash the ground, imagine how strong his fists would be.+ he was able to stop two uniting motherboxes(which individualy have planetary power).
Originally posted by The Spectre+
His headbutt made diana smash the ground, imagine how strong his fists would be.+ he was able to stop two uniting motherboxes(which individualy have planetary power).
Diana weighs about 120 lbs. Regardless of how strong she is, it's not that hard to get her off her feet. Besides, that's still nowhere near the leviathan punch.
Stopping the motherboxes is not a striking feat.
Originally posted by Adam GrimesFalse, he doesn’t have the feats of Thor since you want to feat it up. The dude passed out holding up a tower. Just stop.
Superman is more durable because he tanked far greater damage than MCU has, by far.And I don't know if he's stronger but with his strength + speed, Superman punches should hit phucking hard.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm curious what makes you say Superman hits harder? He doesn't have any striking feat to compare to the leviathan punch or even the Surtur smash.
I mathematically proved that the leviathan punch was under 200 tons of force. That's assuming the leviathan weighed 1000 tons.
For those who are not adept in physics, here you go.
Note: The Leviathan is probably somewhere between 200-500 tons. Let’s just say 1000 tons for the sake of argument. That way, no one should have a problem.
How much force does it take to stop a 1000ton object moving at 20m/s in 10 seconds?
Force = change in momentum/ change in time
= (1000ton * 20m/s) /(10s)
= (907185kg * 20m/s) /(10s)
= 1.81e6 N
= 204 tons of force
So assuming Hulk wasn’t bracing (allowing the concrete to supply the pushing or stopping force) then its a 204 ton feat at the most.
But the reality is that the concrete was supplying the majority of the stopping force as Hulk’s arm was extended through the majority of the feat (he did give a little push here and there though). So the feat is significantly less than 204 tons.
Originally posted by h1a8
I mathematically proved that the leviathan punch was under 200 tons of force. That's assuming the leviathan weighed 1000 tons.For those who are not adept in physics, here you go.
Note: The Leviathan is probably somewhere between 200-500 tons. Let’s just say 1000 tons for the sake of argument. That way, no one should have a problem.How much force does it take to stop a 1000ton object moving at 20m/s in 10 seconds?
Force = change in momentum/ change in time
= (1000ton * 20m/s) /(10s)
= (907185kg * 20m/s) /(10s)
= 1.81e6 N
= 204 tons of forceSo assuming Hulk wasn’t bracing (allowing the concrete to supply the pushing or stopping force) then its a 204 ton feat at the most.
But the reality is that the concrete was supplying the majority of the stopping force as Hulk’s arm was extended through the majority of the feat (he did give a little push here and there though). So the feat is significantly less than 204 tons.
Everyone here knows your calculations are worth sh!t. For example, you didn't even take into consideration that the leviathan is applying a constant amount of force to keep itself moving.
You should know by now that no one takes your math seriously.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Everyone here knows your calculations are worth sh!t. For example, you didn't even take into consideration that the leviathan is applying a constant amount of force to keep itself moving.You should know by now that no one takes your math seriously.
I did. That's why I gave 1000 tons instead of 500 tons.
If it takes 204 tons to stop its momentum in 10 seconds then it takes 204 tons to propel it forward to the same speed in the same time.
Originally posted by h1a8
I did. That's why I gave 1000 tons instead of 500 tons.
If it takes 204 tons to stop its momentum in 10 seconds then it takes 204 tons to propel it forward to the same speed in the same time.
So.... you computed for the leviathan's propulsion by simply doubling it's weight? Wow. And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.