Originally posted by DarkSaint85Albeit to general consensus actually, his powers are rather scientific in nature so to speak, even Dr. Fate clarified that his powers have nothing to do with mysticism and dark arts, so that's just a bonus.
The Shade, for me. More powerful, and more.... fundamental? If that's a property. He's the dark. It's not as if he's something that can be affected by scientific, physical means.
Shade is probably more powerful than Magneto, but Magneto is among the type of the characters who defeats his opponents with versatility and HAX which are hard to counter rather than just plain power.
Regarding Magneto as well, theoretically speaking, he can affect Shade's powers and energies, since Shade's powers are just another variation of Hard Light Constructs (think Green Lantern), just Photons/Light coming together to form a hard light construct but that of black color in simple terms and we all know that Magneto can manipulate those.
Here Batman explains the powers of Shade (context wise it was Nightshade, who actually shares the same powers as Shade and Obsidian) - https://imgur.com/a/2R6Up8v
Here Obisidan (who has the same source of power as Shade) calls his powers black light - https://imgur.com/a/lKd9iDL
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Read your own scan, please. Fate says that Shade is not a being of magic, nor uses supernatural power (which is just another fancy word to say that it is not magic), i mean those sentences by default explain that there is no magic involved with him.
When did Fate say it wasn't magic.All I remember was him saying it wasn't magic LIKE FATE'S.
Using Obsidian and Nightshade et Al is fine and dandy; have you got any of SHADE?
As for Shade, i already showed scans, and yes those scans do equate to Shade, since all of those characters factually have quite literally the same powers and draw it from the same source, it was stated actually as well, thus all of this which was shown is applieable to Shade, since he wields the same dark hard light - http://i.imgur.com/t0Z6aRW.jpg
And how does that favors for Magneto? Selene has defeated him using shadows.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16483265/04-30-09-01-10.jpg.html
Originally posted by abhilegendThe same Selene was amped by INFINITY GEMS energies which were residing in ley lines of Earth, don't forget to mention the context, lol. Doom later with that power could have warped reality at least on planetary scale if he wanted to.
And how does that favors for Magneto? Selene has defeated him using shadows.https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16483265/04-30-09-01-10.jpg.html
Also, her shadows are not the same as Shade's, so there you have basic false equivalency, since Shade's powers are Hard Light/Photonic in nature, unlike Selene's shadow powers of course (which are based on extra-dimensional energy). So overall Shade is throwing photons as Magneto, photons which Magneto has learned to control, after that instance with Selene, he kinda negates his past weaknesses. 😄
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
The same Selene was amped by INFINITY GEMS energies which were residing in ley lines of Earth, don't forget to mention the context, lol. Doom later with that power could have warped reality at least on planetary scale if he wanted to.Also, her shadows are not the same as Shade's, so there you have basic false equivalency, since Shade's powers are Hard Light/Photonic in nature, unlike Selene's shadow powers of course (which are based on extra-dimensional energy). So overall Shade is throwing photons as Magneto, photons which Magneto has learned to control, after that instance with Selene, he kinda negates his past weaknesses. 😄
No need to exaggerate.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And how does that favors for Magneto? Selene has defeated him using shadows.https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16483265/04-30-09-01-10.jpg.html
did she just say light can pass through his shield? is that why mags was able to block photons here with his shield?
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/49974/4822294-magquick.jpg
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Regarding Magneto as well, theoretically speaking, he can affect Shade's powers and energies, since Shade's powers are just another variation of Hard Light Constructs (think Green Lantern), just Photons/Light coming together to form a hard light construct but that of black color in simple terms and we all know that Magneto can manipulate those.]
Where did you get that Shade's powers are "just another variation of Hard Light Constructs"? Black is tha absence of light. It is not, by nature, a part of the electromagnetic spectrum and therefore should not be susceptible to manipulation by Magneto. Is this actually stated in- comic?
As far as I know, Shade has always been potrayed as having mystic based powers.
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Read your own scan, please. Fate says that Shade is not a being of magic, nor uses supernatural power (which is just another fancy word to say that it is not magic), i mean those sentences by default explain that there is no magic involved with him.As for Shade, i already showed scans, and yes those scans do equate to Shade, since all of those characters factually have quite literally the same powers and draw it from the same source, it was stated actually as well, thus all of this which was shown is applieable to Shade, since he wields the same dark hard light - http://i.imgur.com/t0Z6aRW.jpg
Fate says it's not magic like his.
Quicksilver has speed, but not like Flash. Doesn't mean he has no speed.
It's magic, but not like Fates. Not supernatural. But still magic.
