Besides....like Mazerall said, it's all theoretical. Although I think a better term is hypothetical. As there's no proof.
Light users can't control the dark like the Shade. Energy manipulators can't. Shadow is the ABSENCE of photons. So strictly speaking, it's the worst thing to say Magneto can control lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85It's theoretical, not hypothetical, since Magneto has shown ability to control photons and regarding the shadow part of your notion, no Shade's power is not TRUE SHADOW, it's ShadowMatter, key word here being MATTER, it's solid, and is but a variation of Hard Light Construct as explained by Batman and Obsidian, in short that thing is made of photons, just saying.
Besides....like Mazerall said, it's all theoretical. Although I think a better term is hypothetical. As there's no proof.Light users can't control the dark like the Shade. Energy manipulators can't. Shadow is the ABSENCE of photons. So strictly speaking, it's the worst thing to say Magneto can control lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85This is sematics you are playing here, friend. The Fate literally states in 1st panel that Shade is not a being of magic, thus a simply logical conclusion would tell you that it ain't magic.
Fate says it's not magic like his.Quicksilver has speed, but not like Flash. Doesn't mean he has no speed.
It's magic, but not like Fates. Not supernatural. But still magic.
Also Supernatural means Magic, Mystical and Mysterious or beyond natural, which people usually reger to magical obstacles by basic definition, those 2 notions are interwinned altogether, thus when Fate says that his powers are not supernatural it means they are not magical, simple as that.
There is not source saying that it is magical, and on the contrary other sources say that it is not, we have Batman saying that it is Hard Light, which is obviously not magic, and we have the instance with Fate.
Originally posted by abhilegendThere is no exaggeration going on, Selene's shadow is based on extra-dimensional energy, that's how it works in Marvel, it's called lore information, her shadow comes from Darkforce dimension, an extra-dimensional place, thus making the energies (which is not actually shadow, but simply black colored energy) extra-dimensional in nature, so the point remains that you are blatantly applying false equivalency, on top of the fact that it was INFINITY GEM ENERGY amped Selene.
It was only normal shadow disrupted by simple light.No need to exaggerate.
And if people haven't forgotten in this instance light could enter his shields, but Magneto has become better and learned to not allow that, as showcased when he showed ability to control photons, but i bet you are gonna ignore that, since i am sure you are not familiar with concept of characters getting better with their abilities.
The only one playing is you.
Fate: you're not a being of magic, like me (you've missed this part out, conveniently). You're not supernatural..you're almost elemental.
Now go back to what I was saying in my first post.
Splitting hairs, to be honest. We can all agree that it is the ABSENCE of light that he controls. As Fate says.
Not 'dark light' or whatever. We have to take both statements without cherry picking.
Fate says it's the absence of light. Mags can control light. But not it's absence.
is it the absence of light though? for example, i wouldn't call the dark force an 'absence of light'. it is a malleable FORCE that prevents light from working within it. maybe i should clarify--it isn't ONLY the absence of light, nor i would think is light necessary at all to define it. for example again--dark force powers work in the dark. i'd think someone capable of controlling high level forces would then, MAYBE, have a chance at controlling it. depends entirely on the nature of the force. /shrug
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
There is no exaggeration going on, Selene's shadow is based on extra-dimensional energy, that's how it works in Marvel, it's called lore information, her shadow comes from Darkforce dimension, an extra-dimensional place, thus making the energies (which is not actually shadow, but simply black colored energy) extra-dimensional in nature, so the point remains that you are blatantly applying false equivalency, on top of the fact that it was INFINITY GEM ENERGY amped Selene.And if people haven't forgotten in this instance light could enter his shields, but Magneto has become better and learned to not allow that, as showcased when he showed ability to control photons, but i bet you are gonna ignore that, since i am sure you are not familiar with concept of characters getting better with their abilities.
Right, why don't you show us where Magneto stopped shadows or controlled photons (Dazzler illusion combined with Jean Grey notwithstanding).