Hulk used to fit nicely into Low Herald with the ability to compete once he got angry enough and the opponent's PIS-factor was ramped up to 10.
He has been much tougher to place since WWH. There's definitely been a silent upgrade or something, because more often than not he operates at WWH-ish levels at all times, see Hickman's run.
The much vaunted and little seen Worldbreaker has to go into the trans tier.
Originally posted by carver9Ok, I'll try again.
And the things that he lacks, he powers through it. This is the reason people are mentioning bfr. I dont think that should hold a character back. Thor could port Prime into a portal almost every single time. Surfer can as well but Prime rests comfortably above them. HP Doomsday could be ported off by cloak, but he rest comfortably above him. Blink could beat him 10/10 but again, this doesn't change his tier. This only gets thought about when it involves the Hulk who have fts of overpowering bfr anyways.
Magneto vs Hulk without BFR.
Originally posted by carver9
And the things that he lacks, he powers through it. This is the reason people are mentioning bfr. I dont think that should hold a character back. Thor could port Prime into a portal almost every single time. Surfer can as well but Prime rests comfortably above them. HP Doomsday could be ported off by cloak, but he rest comfortably above him. Blink could beat him 10/10 but again, this doesn't change his tier. This only gets thought about when it involves the Hulk who have fts of overpowering bfr anyways.
Right?
Phil, I'm not doing a battle zone. We could do a battlezone where I had Surfer and you was repping Cyclops and I would lose. You're better than me at those. You have far more experience. My thread isnt to attract a battle zone, its to prove a point. We have been going 2 pages off topic. The plan that I want for this thread is for me to post my reasoning and you all debating against THAT reason.
Originally posted by carver9
Phil, I'm not doing a battle zone. We could do a battlezone where I had Surfer and you was repping Cyclops and I would lose. You're better than me at those. You have far more experience. My thread isnt to attract a battle zone, its to prove a point. We have been going 2 pages off topic. The plan that I want for this thread is for me to post my reasoning and you all debating against THAT reason.
Originally posted by carver9
And the things that he lacks, he powers through it. This is the reason people are mentioning bfr. I dont think that should hold a character back. Thor could port Prime into a portal almost every single time. Surfer can as well but Prime rests comfortably above them. HP Doomsday could be ported off by cloak, but he rest comfortably above him. Blink could beat him 10/10 but again, this doesn't change his tier. This only gets thought about when it involves the Hulk who have fts of overpowering bfr anyways.
DD is flash quick. He could blitz most before they can act. Thats why it's nigh impossible to Bfr him.
Originally posted by carver9I used to know somebody who'd invent new games/rules, every time he lost the one he was playing.
Phil, I'm not doing a battle zone. We could do a battlezone where I had Surfer and you was repping Cyclops and I would lose. You're better than me at those. You have far more experience. My thread isnt to attract a battle zone, its to prove a point. We have been going 2 pages off topic. The plan that I want for this thread is for me to post my reasoning and you all debating against THAT reason.
He's dead now. Just FYI.
Originally posted by carver9
@Phil...Let's discuss this because it seems like it is still fresh in your mind and there could be a hint of trauma involved. Did you know him? Is he a close friend, lover, family member?
He was a close friend.
His father left him when he was little, so he had a hard time adapting to social groups. He also cried a lot, sometimes mid-game, so we kept switching games, and doing what he liked. We looked around nervously thinking if we should say something, but eventually we got used to it. He also spoke a lot of incomprehensible gibberish, but we figured it's his way of making sense of all his emotions. After a few years he turned to alcohol, drugs and, eventually, he died choking on Hulk's cock.