Surfer VS Superman

He clearly humiliated Superman. It’s good you’re ok with reality.

Kalibak wasn’t enhanced at all. Quit trying to lie about it because you’re embarrassed he had to be saved.

Superman needed to be saved. Nah, Superman got beat by two goofs portrayed as goofs.

Surfer and Thor have been humiliated by far less, so yeah.

He absolutely was enhanced, and it's not debatable. You dont read comics? Not my problem.

Thor, Surfer's superior by far, needed to be saved from Superman. Surfer and Thor together can't beat Superman's peer. Oh, and Thanos failed to dominate Lobo HTH and resorted to EP like a pussy. keep crying about that fact. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by panthergod
Surfer and Thor have been humiliated by far less, so yeah.

He absolutely was enhanced, and it's not debatable. You dont read comics? Not my problem.

Thor, Surfer's superior by far, needed to be saved from Superman. Surfer and Thor together can't beat Superman's peer. Oh, and Thanos failed to dominate Lobo HTH and resorted to EP like a pussy. keep crying about that fact. 😮‍💨

Why are you relying on non canon crossovers? on panel canon comics a good written Surfer would stomp Darkseid. worse than Supes.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Why are you relying on non canon crossovers? on panel canon comics a good written Surfer would stomp Darkseid. worse than Supes.

Couldn't care less about Marvel fantard delusion to justify lying about facts you dont like.

On panel Surfer got stomped by Darkseid multiple times, is nowhere near Darkseid in any respect, and Superman is far beyond Surfer in raw power and combat formidability-- and that's just Pre IC/Flashpoint, let alone current post Reborn merged Superman, who definitely tears any Herald apart easily.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Why are you relying on non canon crossovers? on panel canon comics a good written Surfer would stomp Darkseid. worse than Supes.

Originally posted by panthergod
Couldn't care less about Marvel fantard delusion to justify lying about facts you dont like.

On panel Surfer got stomped by Darkseid multiple times, is nowhere near Darkseid in any respect, and Superman is far beyond Surfer in raw power and combat formidability-- and that's just Pre IC/Flashpoint, let alone current post Reborn merged Superman, who definitely tears any Herald apart easily.

I highly disagree with that notion.

Surfer has never been stomped by Darkseid. He is sucker shotted by him once.

Originally posted by panthergod
Surfer and Thor have been humiliated by far less, so yeah.

He absolutely was enhanced, and it's not debatable. You dont read comics? Not my problem.

Thor, Surfer's superior by far, needed to be saved from Superman. Surfer and Thor together can't beat Superman's peer. Oh, and Thanos failed to dominate Lobo HTH and resorted to EP like a pussy. keep crying about that fact. 😮‍💨

Darkseid resorts to EP against Thor and Surfer. He resorts to a sucker EP against Surfer. So he must be a bigger pussy.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I highly disagree with that notion.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who cares?

Obviously you do since you replied to it. nice job, you just played ya self son

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Darkseid resorts to EP against Thor and Surfer. He resorts to a sucker EP against Surfer. So he must be a bigger pussy.

Darkseid out-muscles Thor and Surfer's physical superiors with one arm easily, but yeah, He's a boss, not a adolescent emo lovesick brute like Thanos, so he doesn't need to get his hands dirty with puny small world peasants if it isn't necessary.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I highly disagree with that notion.

Feel free to delude yourself about what the comics make irrefutable.

Originally posted by panthergod
Darkseid out-muscles Thor and Surfer's physical superiors with one arm easily, but yeah, He's a boss, not a adolescent emo lovesick brute like Thanos, so he doesn't need to get his hands dirty with puny small world peasants if it isn't necessary.

Thanos does better agains a nourished Galactus than Darkseid does against a starving Galactus.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Obviously you do since you replied to it. nice job, you just played ya self son

You're a confused individual.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Thanos does better agains a nourished Galactus than Darkseid does against a starving Galactus.

Darkseid directly defeated Galactus with a literal thought's worth of raw power output -- Apokolips is a reflection of his innate power via the Omega Force, per Byrne, who has him outputting more power than Apokolips does in a year to manipulate it from the Source Wall. so with virtually zero effort/power output whatsoever-- and Galactus exclusively resisted being BFR'd from space/time by the guy who established that he is essential to space-time.

Galactus blasted Darkseid backwards into a building and ripped his clothes, though.

Oh, and that was a younger past Darkseid nowhere near as powerful as modern Darkseid, who absorbed multiple pantheons worth of power in the meanwhile per Byrne.

Again, modern era he can exceed the entire planet of Apkolips' yearly power output within moments , where a mere fraction of the planet empowered by a mere thought's worth of power output from a much less powerful Darkseid -- all established on panel by the same writer-- humbled Galactus.

Try again. 😂

Originally posted by panthergod
Surfer and Thor have been humiliated by far less, so yeah.

He absolutely was enhanced, and it's not debatable. You dont read comics? Not my problem.

Thor, Surfer's superior by far, needed to be saved from Superman. Surfer and Thor together can't beat Superman's peer. Oh, and Thanos failed to dominate Lobo HTH and resorted to EP like a pussy. keep crying about that fact. 😮‍💨

In the comic the two goofs beat on him. They were portrayed as dummies but they beat the stuffing out of Superman. He needed saving.

Nah, but that’s abc logic. Superman can’t even handle Venom. Thanos just solo’d the universe whereas Darkseid was beaten and is growing up a loser teenager. Darkseid wants to be Thanos when he grows up.

No, they haven’t.

Yes, they have.

bullets, chains , soup and sledgehammers. and Spider-Man.

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In the comic the two goofs beat on him. They were portrayed as dummies but they beat the stuffing out of Superman. He needed saving.
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That's nice. in Kalibak's prior appearance in the leadup to Countdown/DoTNG he mauled Orion HTH.

Nah, but that’s abc logic. Superman can’t even handle Venom.

Thanos just solo’d the universe

Is one puny small universe supposed to be impressive or something..? lmao.

whereas Darkseid was beaten and is growing up a loser teenager. Darkseid wants to be Thanos when he grows up.

Even as a teen Darksied was defeating Skyfather Zeus in super-speed combat, while Thanos gets beat up by the Thing and Carol ****ing Danvers. 😂

ok, can a mod just close this thread? its clear the trolls have made everything go to absolute shit.

Originally posted by ghostman
ok, can a mod just close this thread? its clear the trolls have made everything go to absolute shit.

Translation: you can't handle anti DC BS being dismantled so you're whining to mods like a child. if you dont want to discuss or debate, GTFO.

Originally posted by ghostman
who is better, in terms of..
1.intelligence
2.tactics
3.hth skill

use feats to support your argument please.

Basic physics.

There. Now the next side goes.

Originally posted by panthergod
so more lies..?

Darkseid directly defeated Galactus with a literal thought's worth of raw power output -- Apokolips is a reflection of his innate power via the Omega Force, per Byrne, who has him outputting more power than Apokolips does in a year to manipulate it from the Source Wall. so with virtually zero effort/power output whatsoever-- and Galactus exclusively resisted being BFR'd from space/time by the guy who established that he is essential to space-time.

Galactus blasted Darkseid backwards into a building and ripped his clothes, though.

Oh, and that was a younger past Darkseid nowhere near as powerful as modern Darkseid, who absorbed multiple pantheons worth of power in the meanwhile per Byrne.

Again, modern era he can exceed the entire planet of Apkolips' yearly power output within moments , where a mere fraction of the planet empowered by a mere thought's worth of power output from a much less powerful Darkseid -- all established on panel by the same writer-- humbled Galactus.

Try again. 😂

Using your logic, Surfer is an extension of Galactus’s power and Surfer destroys all of those constructs. So Galactus still dominates and the book clearly attributes that bit of success on Darkseid’s part to Galactus being near starved. Byrne flat out states that he needed Galactus starving in order for him to not defeat Apokolips in a page or so.

But it’s clear that DS activates tech with a though as opposed to a “thought worths of power”which is something you made up along with the “essential to the universe” excuse that you likewise made up.