Originally posted by FrothByte
Not speculation, since Thor already used it. So you're basically caught in a conundrum here:Either Thor used the tesseract directly, which means Odin should be able to use it directly, or he used a device on the tesseract, which means Asgard has the technology to use the tesseract.
Either way, Asgard will be able to use the tesseract in this fight.
Like I said, he can't even understand his own arguments.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Not speculation, since Thor already used it. So you're basically caught in a conundrum here:Either Thor used the tesseract directly, which means Odin should be able to use it directly, or he used a device on the tesseract, which means Asgard has the technology to use the tesseract.
Either way, Asgard will be able to use the tesseract in this fight.
Okay, then. You are seriously stubborn aren't you. Yet there is an enormous flaw in your statement!
1. Thor the Dark World:
Malekith, Lord of the Dark Elves attacks Asgard killing Freya mother of Thor in an attempt to get the Aether Aka The Reality Stone!!! A weapon of mass destruction which could doom the 9 Realms and seriously harm the Universe.
Why didn't Thor/Odin used the Tesseract to defeat Malekith and the Aeither!?
😂
2. Thor Ragnarok:
Hela, Goddess of Death, destroyer of Mjolnir comes from her imprisonment! She threatens to conquer the entire universe.
Somehow, Thor required to use the Eternal Flame to awaken Surtur to stop her. When clearly, the Tesseract was there, An infinity Stone which is >>>> Surtur.
Why didn't Thor employed the Tesseract to warp space and send her back to her imprisonment
LOL! I believe this is enough writing to sink your points and speculation
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't really know Josh as a poster, but is he trying to troll with the fool's logic style of does he legit have a learning/mental disability of some kind?
Robtard, i've brought up evidence while you bring me speculation.
Read the post i wrote to Froth. Your speculation is damned.
And stop the insults, just admit you lost the debate.
Your evidence is "we didn't see Odin use the Tesseract so he can't!", which completely ignores the logic that we see Thor use it and Odin is Thor's superior.
So you're either purposely being a fool to try and win an argument, or you legit have a learning disability where you can't connect the logic dots. I suspect the former as that's a tactic around here, but I don't know you very well.
Originally posted by Robtard
Your evidence is "we didn't see Odin use the Tesseract so he can't!", which completely ignores the logic that we see Thor use it and Odin is Thor's superior.So you're either purposely being a fool to try and win an argument, or you legit have a learning disability where you can't connect the logic dots. I suspect the former as that's a tactic around here, but I don't know you very well.
😂 The only fool here is you fellow.
Here is the facts!:
Odin never used the tesseract against Malekith when he possessed the Aether!
If you want to claim he will use it now, then BRING ME EVIDENCE NOT SPECULATION
Otherwise i can safely and without a doubt say Odin won't use the Tesseract here in this fight.
It's called logic.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
😂 The only fool here is you fellow.Here is the facts!:
Odin never used the tesseract against Malekith when he possessed the Aether!
If you want to claim he will use it now, then [B] BRING ME EVIDENCE NOT SPECULATION
Otherwise i can safely and without a doubt say Odin won't use the Tesseract here in this fight.
It's called logic. [/B]
Oh and movie evidence not comics 😂
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Space stone yes.No being has been able to use the Tesseract without a device! Loki needed a device, Red Skull needed a device to drain it, Thor needed a device to use it.
Again, bring me [B] evidence someone can use the Tesseract
without a device/equipment, otherwise you are speaking BS! [/B]
The Tesseract is not one of the stones, my guy. The Tesseract is the technological housing around the space stone. Meaning that the space stone is already in a "device", which is how the space stone was capable of being used as "unlimited, renewable energy"- it was housed in a device that allowed it to be used, i.e. the Tesseract.
Anyways, Odin wouldn't even need the Tesseract to kill Thanos. He could literally just teleport him into the core of a sun with his own dark energy, lmao. It has been stated that he can teleport people across the universe, accurately, with his own powers. What defense against that, would Thanos have? None, lol. As far as we've seen, Thor was not only able to overpower the fully powered gauntlet, but was also unable to survive more than a few minutes in a neutron star. Thanos demonstrably couldn't do that with just the power stone. Hell, he might not even be able to do that with any of the stones other than like the reality stone, or something.
The point is, this isn't comic book Marvel we're dealing with. Even in the comics though, Odin would outright stomp Thanos here, considering Odin in the comics is on par with Celestial and cosmic beings.
Odin wins either way- there's a reason Thanos waited for Odin to go missing to enact his plan. He couldn't have gotten past him to force the dwarves to forge the gauntlet for him in the first place, if it hadn't been for Odin going missing and the whole mess with Ragnarok and the events leading up to it.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
😂 The only fool here is you fellow.Here is the facts!:
Odin never used the tesseract against Malekith when he possessed the Aether!
If you want to claim he will use it now, then [B] BRING ME EVIDENCE NOT SPECULATION
Otherwise i can safely and without a doubt say Odin won't use the Tesseract here in this fight.
It's called logic. [/B]
Using your fool's logic Thanos would not use the Power Stone to destroy Asgard then, cos we don't ever see him destroy a world with it... He tortures Thor a bit with it, blows up an already demolished space ship. Therefore that's all he can do with it.
But I don't debate like a fool, ergo, Thanos is free to use the Power Stone as he sees fit, just as Odin is free to use the Space Stone as he sees fit.
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
How does Thanos win? We have seen the power stone used on people weaker than Odin or Thor and they survived, we have seen Iron Man block and deflect blast from the Power Stone as well.
From all the posts i've addressed this afternoon this is the one that makes most sense!!!!!!
No one can survive the Power Stone fellow (Except Multiversal and Universal beings). People can endure it for a couple of time, but they would all die in matter of minutes.
Even the Celestials, whose power dwarf that of Odin, Thanos, and Thor convined couldn't endure it.
The Power Stone is a weapon of power beyond mortals and even immortals.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The Tesseract is not one of the stones, my guy. The Tesseract is the technological housing around the space stone. Meaning that the space stone is already in a "device", which is how the space stone was capable of being used as "unlimited, renewable energy"- it was housed in a device that allowed it to be used, i.e. the Tesseract.Anyways, Odin wouldn't even need the Tesseract to kill Thanos. He could literally just teleport him into the core of a sun with his own dark energy, lmao. It has been stated that he can teleport people across the universe, accurately, with his own powers. What defense against that, would Thanos have? None, lol. As far as we've seen, Thor was not only able to overpower the fully powered gauntlet, but was also unable to survive more than a few minutes in a neutron star. Thanos demonstrably couldn't do that with just the power stone. Hell, he might not even be able to do that with any of the stones other than like the reality stone, or something.
The point is, this isn't comic book Marvel we're dealing with. Even in the comics though, Odin would outright stomp Thanos here, considering Odin in the comics is on par with Celestial and cosmic beings.
Odin wins either way- there's a reason Thanos waited for Odin to go missing to enact his plan. He couldn't have gotten past him to force the dwarves to forge the gauntlet for him in the first place, if it hadn't been for Odin going missing and the whole mess with Ragnarok and the events leading up to it.
Gogetta, I already address a similar statemente above.
Resuming. The Tesseract is a shell that contains/holds the Space Stone not a device.
Originally posted by Robtard
Using your fool's logic Thanos would not use the Power Stone to destroy Asgard then, cos we don't ever see him destroy a world with it... He tortures Thor a bit with it, blows up an already demolished space ship. Therefore that's all he can do with it.But I don't debate like a fool, ergo, Thanos is free to use the Power Stone as he sees fit, just as Odin is free to use the Space Stone as he sees fit.
You claimed Odin can use it, yet he never did when he most needed it! Your statement is flawed.
Lol! WTH!!!? ARE YOU SERIOUS?