Thanos w/ his army vs. Asgard

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Gogetta, I already address a similar statemente above.

Resuming. The Tesseract is a shell that contains/holds the Space Stone not a device.

You never answered how Thanos survives being booted into a black hole/the core of a star/another dimension, etc. All of these are things that Odin could do to him, as he has done them to other beings in the past.

And eh, semantics don't work here, bro. Regardless of the moniker you're placing on the space stone's housing, it was used to create a portal that allowed the chitauri and Loki to invade New York. This was done by Dr. Selvig, a simple Earthling scientist. Thor has stated many times that magic is simply more advanced technology, and that Earth's technology is a primitive form of magic.

Are you really under the assumption that Odin himself couldn't use an infinity stone, when the likes of the GotG were able to wield one?

Something else I find amusing is that you keep saying the Tesseract is not a "device" made to use the stone. So... What, are you saying that Ronin's hammer was a device? Lmao, Ronin wasn't strong enough to wield it directly, like Thanos(who is much weaker than Odin btw), so he put it in his weapon. Thanos is strong enough to wield a stone by himself, and Thanos in base is canonically weaker than Odin. So Odin would wield a single stone even easier than Thanos did, lol. And who said Odin couldn't just put it in his staff or scepter or something, and then use it to warp Thanos away through a portal? Lmao, there are so many things you're assuming here, and it just doesn't make sense.

Odin uses either his own power, or the Tesseract(not really necessary) by putting it in a staff, and warps Thanos into a sun. Thanos has no way to survive, and is melted inside of the star, which also ends up dissolving the power stone along with it(I mean come on, Wanda destroyed the mind stone and she certainly isn't outputting as much power as the sun).

Odin wins, no matter how you look at it. Unless you don't look at it at all, and just ignore the feats, statements, etc. in favor of a specific character.

We see Heimdall in IW teleport the Hulk using dark magic, it doesn't take long at all.

Asgard is too much imo as the space stone cancels out the power stone.

Odin at his peak beat full power Surtur and imprisoned Hela, and casually depowered Thor. If he's not weakened, I'd bet on him making Thanos his ***** boy, and the Asgardian army combined owning the outriders. The black Order are tough, but nothing Thor, Loki, Heimdall, and Asgard's elite can't handle. People forget that Asgardian soldiers were owning Frost Giants, and beating the crap out of the Kursed in significant number. Even a regular Asgardian like the stone mason is as strong as Proxima Midnight or Corvus Glaive. Ebony Maw is the biggest problem imo.

It's a shame we didn't see more of Asgard. This would've been a way more fun Battle to see than Wakanda imo.

Originally posted by Robtard
I have no idea what that sentence means?

But if your argument is "other beings have used the Power Stone to destroy planets, so Thanos can too", then you're going against the logic you applied to Odin and the Space Stone ealier. Pick one, don't use double-standards.

If I manage to bring you the evidence you request, will you finally surrender and stop this folly!?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You never answered how Thanos survives being booted into a black hole/the core of a star/another dimension, etc. All of these are things that Odin could do to him, as he has done them to other beings in the past.

And eh, semantics don't work here, bro. Regardless of the moniker you're placing on the space stone's housing, it was used to create a portal that allowed the chitauri and Loki to invade New York. This was done by Dr. Selvig, a simple Earthling scientist. Thor has stated many times that magic is simply more advanced technology, and that Earth's technology is a primitive form of magic.

Are you really under the assumption that Odin himself couldn't use an infinity stone, when the likes of the GotG were able to wield one?

Something else I find amusing is that you keep saying the Tesseract is not a "device" made to use the stone. So... What, are you saying that Ronin's hammer was a device? Lmao, Ronin wasn't strong enough to wield it directly, like Thanos(who is much weaker than Odin btw), so he put it in his weapon. Thanos is strong enough to wield a stone by himself, and Thanos in base is canonically weaker than Odin. So Odin would wield a single stone even easier than Thanos did, lol. And who said Odin couldn't just put it in his staff or scepter or something, and then use it to warp Thanos away through a portal? Lmao, there are so many things you're assuming here, and it just doesn't make sense.

Odin uses either his own power, or the Tesseract(not really necessary) by putting it in a staff, and warps Thanos into a sun. Thanos has no way to survive, and is melted inside of the star, which also ends up dissolving the power stone along with it(I mean come on, Wanda destroyed the mind stone and she certainly isn't outputting as much power as the sun).

Odin wins, no matter how you look at it. Unless you don't look at it at all, and just ignore the feats, statements, etc. in favor of a specific character.

I'll assume you didn't read my statement!

The Tesseract (The blue/skyblue glowing cube) requires technology/device/apparatus to unlock it's properties! It isn't like anyone can grab it and Teleport to Disneyland!!!

As you claimed It required Dr. Selvin's MACHINE to able to create the portal. It required Thor's Capsule to be able to teleport them back to Asgard. It required Thanos to have an Infinity Gauntlet to use it.

Unless given evidence that Odin possesses a device similar to the Infinity Gauntlet, there isn't much he can do with it!

Originally posted by Nevan
We see Heimdall in IW teleport the Hulk using dark magic, it doesn't take long at all.

Thanos would destroy Asgard in less time.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Asgard is too much imo as the space stone cancels out the power stone.

Odin at his peak beat full power Surtur and imprisoned Hela, and casually depowered Thor. If he's not weakened, I'd bet on him making Thanos his ***** boy, and the Asgardian army combined owning the outriders. The black Order are tough, but nothing Thor, Loki, Heimdall, and Asgard's elite can't handle. People forget that Asgardian soldiers were owning Frost Giants, and beating the crap out of the Kursed in significant number. Even a regular Asgardian like the stone mason is as strong as Proxima Midnight or Corvus Glaive. Ebony Maw is the biggest problem imo.

It's a shame we didn't see more of Asgard. This would've been a way more fun Battle to see than Wakanda imo.

Your opinion is respected

I am startled! How biased people in KMC are becoming.

There is not a SINGLE FEAT, NOT ONE, which proves that Odin can willingly manipulate the Tesseract! Not one!

The only insight we got is Thor having this little capsule that made a small blue circle arround him and Loki to teleport them to Asgard! That and nothing more!!!!

So, anything you bring is considered SPECULATION.

WE DON'T DEBATE SPECULATION.

Fact's are simple. Thanos has the Power Stone which can wipe Asgard in matter of seconds!

Thanos wins!

You fail to realize you are contradicting yourself with every post. What we have seen is different weapons fuse with a stone. Why couldnt Odins Staff or Mjlolnir for that matter fuse with the Space Stone? Was Ronans Hammer or lokis staff more powerful than those two weapons.

@Quan:

In your battlezone challenge, how many stones does Thanos have, which version of Thor and is Hela included?

I have a question for Josh. If Thanos didnt have the power stone in this fight and the Asgardians didn't have the tesseract, how do you think this fight will go?

Originally posted by FrothByte
@Quan:

In your battlezone challenge, how many stones does Thanos have, which version of Thor and is Hela included?

Personally I'd prefer we just leave off the power and space stones. Too much implied power, not enough feats. But it's fine if you want to keep it. Or did you mean Thanos has both stones?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Personally I'd prefer we just leave off the power and space stones. Too much implied power, not enough feats. But it's fine if you want to keep it. Or did you mean Thanos has both stones?

Originally posted by quanchi112
We get plenty of feats from the film. So you really want to do this and by that I mean including Malekith and Ronan as well as their combined forces.

Depends, I'm still trying to figure out which stones you want Thanos to have and which stones Asgard has.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Depends, I'm still trying to figure out which stones you want Thanos to have and which stones Asgard has.

Either Thanos has the power stone and Asgard has the tesseract like it is in this thread or none of them get any stones. Giving Thanos both power and space stones makes him OP. He can literally teleport and just touch the power stone on Asgard and obliterate everything.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Either Thanos has the power stone and Asgard has the tesseract like it is in this thread or none of them get any stones. Giving Thanos both power and space stones makes him OP. He can literally teleport and just touch the power stone on Asgard and obliterate everything.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
You fail to realize you are contradicting yourself with every post. What we have seen is different weapons fuse with a stone. Why couldnt Odins Staff or Mjlolnir for that matter fuse with the Space Stone? Was Ronans Hammer or lokis staff more powerful than those two weapons.

What!!?

Are you saying that the Space Stone and Power Stone are somehow equal to the Time Stone!?

Dude come on!!!!

If you will claim a feat to an object you have to provide evidence. There is no evidence that the Space Stone/Tesseract can be fused!

Also, the Space stone is confined within the Tesseract, where as on the other hand, The Mind Stone has no shell, and the Orb can be easily opened!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What!!?

Are you saying that the Space Stone and Power Stone are somehow equal to the Time Stone!?

Dude come on!!!!

If you will claim a feat to an object you have to provide evidence. There is no evidence that the Space Stone/Tesseract can be fused!

Also, the Space stone is confined within the Tesseract, where as on the other hand, The Mind Stone has no shell, and the Orb can be easily opened!

Where did I mention the Time stone? I think the Time Stone is the most powerful stone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I can live with that. So you accept? We can iron out the date around the time Infinity War comes out on dvd so the clips are up on YouTube.

Sure thing.