Juggernaut vs. MCU Destroyer

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok let's dial it back and we'll tackle this one at a time so you can keep up. What's the best strength feat you have for Colossus outside of fighting Juggernaut?

Colossus hasnt got much screen time to give him lots of feats but...Also you got to remember that Colossus restrains himself a lot in battles.

But he got nice feats nevertheless.

Receiving a direct impact from Fire Fist without getting harmed.
Getting punched by Angel Dust without getting damaged.

Colossus clearly can tank a lot of damage.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Colossus hasnt got much screen time to give him lots of feats but...Also you got to remember that Colossus restrains himself a lot in battles.

But he got nice feats nevertheless.

Receiving a direct impact from Fire Fist without getting harmed.
Getting punched by Angel Dust without getting damaged.

Colossus clearly can tank a lot of damage.

No, not durability. Strength feats.

He caught that bus Juggernaut threw at him iirc.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No, not durability. Strength feats.

Fighting Angel Dust who manages to easily break concrete.

The bus feat mentioned by Juggernaut74 above.

Also being able to ragdoll Deadpool who weights 180kg with no effort at all.

IIRC, Colossus didn't so much catch that bus as he redirected and pushed it over his head. Still, it's a valid feat. Best one he has other than throwing a big tire. Now let's get to Lady Sif's strength feats.

She chucked a trailer (roughly the size of that bus) sideways and against friction with just a push of her foot. A casual palm thrust from her sends a full grown man flying a couple dozen meters through the air. And I assume being an elite Asgardian that she's at least as strong as the Asgardian farmer in AoS that easily crumpled a tactical knife in his hand.

Like I said, Sif has feats that put her within Colossus' strength range and Colossus was strong enough to hurt Juggernaut.

Originally posted by FrothByte
IIRC, Colossus didn't so much catch that bus as he redirected and pushed it over his head. Still, it's a valid feat. Best one he has other than throwing a big tire. Now let's get to Lady Sif's strength feats.

She chucked a trailer (roughly the size of that bus) sideways and against friction with just a push of her foot. A casual palm thrust from her sends a full grown man flying a couple dozen meters through the air. And I assume being an elite Asgardian that she's at least as strong as the Asgardian farmer in AoS that easily crumpled a tactical knife in his hand.

Like I said, Sif has feats that put her within Colossus' strength range and Colossus was strong enough to hurt Juggernaut.

Okay... and?

How does that help Destroyer??? Destroyer has no strength feats...Isn't like we saw Destroyer arm wrestle Sif.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Also being able to ragdoll Deadpool who weights 180kg with no effort at all.

180 kgs? What makes you think DP weighs close to 400 lbs?

Originally posted by FrothByte
180 kgs? What makes you think DP weighs close to 400 lbs?

80kgs sorry.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay... and?

How does that help Destroyer??? Destroyer has no strength feats...Isn't like we saw Destroyer arm wrestle Sif.

1. That proves that Sif on her own is strong enough to hurt Juggernaut and give him hell of a fight, since she's similar in strength to Colossus who was able to give Juggs a hell of a fight.

2. Sif was completely ineffective against Destroyer. Especially when it wasn't just Sif but her and the warriors 3. Could you imagine Juggernaut dealing with 4 Colossuses (Colossi?) as easily as the Destroyer dealt with the 4 Asgardians?

Originally posted by FrothByte
The fact that the Destroyer treated 4 high end Asgardians like little kids, especially when you consider the fact that Sif has better sttength and combat feats than Colossus.

^ Chucked a trailer with a push of her foot. Casually palmed a grown man a few dozen meters through the air. What better strength feats does Colossus have?

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. That proves that Sif on her own is strong enough to hurt Juggernaut and give him hell of a fight, since she's similar in strength to Colossus who was able to give Juggs a hell of a fight.

2. Sif was completely ineffective against Destroyer. Especially when it wasn't just Sif but her and the warriors 3. Could you imagine Juggernaut dealing with 4 Colossuses (Colossi?) as easily as the Destroyer dealt with the 4 Asgardians?

He seems incapable of processing information or connecting the dots of a comparison.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He seems incapable of processing information or connecting the dots of a comparison.

Heck I'm already spoon-feeding him the logic one gerber-teaspoon at a time and he's still not getting it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Sif doesn’t have better strength feats than Colossus.
How exactly did he treat them? What did he do to them exactly?Details are the key.

I thought writer's intent was key, are you changing your standard?

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. That proves that Sif on her own is strong enough to hurt Juggernaut and give him hell of a fight, since she's similar in strength to Colossus who was able to give Juggs a hell of a fight.

2. Sif was completely ineffective against Destroyer. Especially when it wasn't just Sif but her and the warriors 3. Could you imagine Juggernaut dealing with 4 Colossuses (Colossi?) as easily as the Destroyer dealt with the 4 Asgardians?

1. Sif can be as strong as Colossus. But Colossus is way more durable!!!! Also, a punch from Colossus would hurt more than a punch from Sif (He is made of metal after all).

Also, can Sif hold a bus the way Juggernaut did? I hardly doubt so.

2. Except the Asgardian's ain't as durable as Colossus. Furthermore, the Asgardians never attacked or punched the Destroyer.

Colossus would beat Destroyer to crapp.

Juggernaut will well...devour Destroyer and make a pennis ring out of it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He seems incapable of processing information or connecting the dots of a comparison.

Keep supporting Froth. In the end you are the little brother who is incapable of debating.

Keep hiding behind your brother's back 😂

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. Sif can be as strong as Colossus. But Colossus is way more durable!!!! Also, a punch from Colossus would hurt more than a punch from Sif (He is made of metal after all).

Also, can Sif hold a bus the way Juggernaut did? I hardly doubt so.

2. Except the Asgardian's ain't as durable as Colossus. Furthermore, the Asgardians never attacked or punched the Destroyer.

Colossus would beat Destroyer to crapp.

Juggernaut will well...devour Destroyer and make a pennis ring out of it.

1. Colossus might probably be more durable than Asgardians but it's not by much. Sif was shot pointblank by a shotgun and didn't flinch. Volstagg got thrown by multiple explosions and was still fine. Loki and Thor have some of the best durability feats in the entire MCU.

You might want to rewatch the Destroyer fight. The Asgardians launched Volstagg against it and the Destroyer easily slapped him away. Sif then ran it through with her spear which did absolutely nothing to it. It was then walking on fire without any issues and slapping away any debris that fell on it.

Also, I wasn't comparing Sif to Juggs, I was comparing her to Colossus.

2. See my response in #1. The Asgardians most definitely attacked the Destroyer.

In the end, I'm at least providing some basis and logic for my arguments. From you, all I'm hearing is your opinion repeated in different variations. You know you can't use your opinion to prove your opinion right?

Juggernaut was probably 2X colossus overall in a fight, and would be less than that if he didn't have his helmet, which Colossus kept punching and kicking for some reason....Thor's hammer throw at the Destroyer didn't leave a scratch (neither will Juggernaut's hits)...Thor knew he had to take a different approach...Juggernaut does not have another approach. It took multiple mutants and energies to briefly take him down, but that Destroyer beam is a different category.

Vaporizing beings who are maybe 1/3 Colossus or so, Juggernaut isn't more durable than Colossus per unit size, he would be hurt by the beam, and killed with a few strikes or less. Juggernaut strikes will knock the Destroyer back a bit but not hurt it, at least not fast enough to avoid the beam. His helmet seems PIS durable, so maybe he can charge it head-first and deflect the beam a couple of times? But he won't win.

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Colossus might probably be more durable than Asgardians but it's not by much. Sif was shot pointblank by a shotgun and didn't flinch. Volstagg got thrown by multiple explosions and was still fine. Loki and Thor have some of the best durability feats in the entire MCU.

You might want to rewatch the Destroyer fight. The Asgardians launched Volstagg against it and the Destroyer easily slapped him away. Sif then ran it through with her spear which did absolutely nothing to it. It was then walking on fire without any issues and slapping away any debris that fell on it.

Also, I wasn't comparing Sif to Juggs, I was comparing her to Colossus.

2. See my response in #1. The Asgardians most definitely attacked the Destroyer.

In the end, I'm at least providing some basis and logic for my arguments. From you, all I'm hearing is your opinion repeated in different variations. You know you can't use your opinion to prove your opinion right?

1. Bring Evidence that Destroyer can swing a Bus

Spoiler:
the way Juggernaut did.

2. Bring Evidence that Destroyer has fightning skills (Cause he doesn't).

Juggernaut>>>>Destroyer.

The one not bringing evidence here is you. You are going by the branches.