Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
He didn't? Superman was getting batted around despite his flight advantage. It wasn't till he broke faora's mask that they left.Except did never trained with powers. and even with his training and superior genes, he lost to a nerd before his planet blew up. Zod's training and skill didn't amount to a hill of beans. It was His power that made him formidable.
In other words, you don't think they were as powerful as Superman. So I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with me.
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylonIyo not mine. Dark world while it lacks emotion I love the lore and the looks of it. Iron Man 3 was really bad I agree. Thor Ragnarok was great. The sad thing with the dceu is they haven’t had one great film thus far just one good one WW.
No its not Dark World is probably at the bottom or 2nd to last just ahead of Iron Man 3. Thor 1 is near the bottom as well. Thank god they made up for it with Ragnarok.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I'm saying that the average kryptonian is around superman level. The average asgardian is not anywhere close to thor.
So you have like what, 4 guys who are around Superman levels and the rest are plain human-level? 5 if you include Doomsday?
Asgard has Thor, Odin, Loki, Hela and Valkyrie who are around Thor level. Include Surtur and you have 6. Plus your average Asgardian warrior is >>>>>> average kryptonian.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So you have like what, 4 guys who are around Superman levels and the rest are plain human-level? 5 if you include Doomsday?Asgard has Thor, Odin, Loki, Hela and Valkyrie who are around Thor level. Include Surtur and you have 6. Plus your average Asgardian warrior is >>>>>> average kryptonian.
Every soldier who stepped on earth is around superman level. Valkyrie and Loki are way below thor.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilValkryieha the tech to show out any Kryptonian. She is a peer to Thor but can’t outright beat him just like Faora is a peer to Superman but can’t beat him one on one.
Every soldier who stepped on earth is around superman level. Valkyrie and Loki are way below thor.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Every soldier who stepped on earth is around superman level. Valkyrie and Loki are way below thor.
Prove it. Prove that they're all Superman level.
Loki has been able to fight Thor toe to toe, Valkyrie took out Loki. Do I need to explain to you the logic behind this or are you good from here?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Prove it. Prove that they're all Superman level.Loki has been able to fight Thor toe to toe, Valkyrie took out Loki. Do I need to explain to you the logic behind this or are you good from here?
Thor destroyed Loki until he tricked and stabbed him. Hundreds of valkyrie died to hela at once. Thor could go toe to toe with hela and can withstand the force of a neutron star. Maybe baby pre god mode thor is close to their level, but once he got past losing his safety hammer, he is leagues above them.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Because that's how kryptonian biology works. That's how jar el said it works. That's how the guy who drugged superman said it works. That's how zod said it works. I don't need to prove that bucky or red skull can't get drunk, because that's how the super soldier serum works and they get from the same source as Cap.Thor destroyed Loki until he tricked and stabbed him. Hundreds of valkyrie died to hela at once. Thor could go toe to toe with hela and can withstand the force of a neutron star. Maybe baby pre god mode thor is close to their level, but once he got past losing his safety hammer, he is leagues above them.
Except I don't recall any other Kryptonians actually stepping on to Earth and displaying powers other than Zod, Faora and Namek.
Thor is better than Loki, that's obvious. Doesn't change the fact that Loki is close enough to Thor that he can give Thor a fight.
Hela>thor>100 valkyrie. Ignoring that thor faught hela on asgard, the source of her power, while hela faught the valkyrie in some grand mountain range that is clearly not asgard? Or the fact that thor is like 20 times stronger than his avengers 1 self after figuring out how to generate his own lightning? Or ignoring that we are given a scientific (well, comic book science) reason on where kryptonians get their power from?
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Hela>thor>100 valkyrie. Ignoring that thor faught hela on asgard, the source of her power, while hela faught the valkyrie in some grand mountain range that is clearly not asgard? Or the fact that thor is like 20 times stronger than his avengers 1 self after figuring out how to generate his own lightning? Or ignoring that we are given a scientific (well, comic book science) reason on where kryptonians get their power from?
Did the other kryptonians step outside their ship or not?
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilSo much context is missing. Hela would have gone through Thor easily just like the one Valkyrie that escaped. That doesn’t mean either Thor or Valkyrie can take the other Valkyries just because they survived.
Hela>thor>100 valkyrie. Ignoring that thor faught hela on asgard, the source of her power, while hela faught the valkyrie in some grand mountain range that is clearly not asgard? Or the fact that thor is like 20 times stronger than his avengers 1 self after figuring out how to generate his own lightning? Or ignoring that we are given a scientific (well, comic book science) reason on where kryptonians get their power from?
Thor figured out how to better channel his powers so I think you’re exaggerating as you always do. His huge amp came with the new axe. That weapon is the real deal.
Again which Kryptonian can defeat Hela?