Sentry vs Molecule Man (this is it)
They fight somewhere.
Couple Sentrys and Molecule Mans to take into consideration and match them up as you please, or talk of them in general discussion as you please.
Seige/Dark Reign era Sentry
Death Seed Sentry
Current Sentry
Fantastic Four Annual Molecule Man
Dark Reign era Molecule Man
Hickman Molecule Man
Current Molecule Man
I'm sure it can be figured out from there.
Ps. If this has to be moved, move it to the Battlezone. Why? Who knows?winkiss
Originally posted by Facee
I don't know much about these characters. Can someone post a feat or two? 🙂
Well, we have the entire battle between the two:
Sentry ruins Owen. This really shouldn't be a question... I mean we saw the entire encounter, and found out that Owen lacks the tools to defeat a concept like being like the Sentry. The Sentry, the Void, and DS Sentry are simply puppets of varying degrees of power. DS Sentry being the most powerful of the puppets by far. They're solidified projections of Bob's mind but given total autonomy to act. Owen is toast here.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Owen. One low showing does not make Sentry his better
This goes beyond low showing. Owen literally does not have the tools to deal with Bob. Owen has one life, Sentry has an infinite number. Break one Sentry, and Bob whips up another one. This goes beyond Owens ability to destroy one of Bob's constructs. We know that Owen can physically destroy the Sentry. The problem comes when Sentry comes right back and puts the whammy on Owen. Owen can't resist or come back from the defeat as quickly as Bob can bring the Sentry back. Haven't you been paying attention? Not to be rude, but Bob has to be defeated or the Sentry has God Mode status.
Originally posted by Stoic
This goes beyond low showing. Owen literally does not have the tools to deal with Bob. Owen has one life, Sentry has an infinite number. Break one Sentry, and Bob whips up another one. This goes beyond Owens ability to destroy one of Bob's constructs. We know that Owen can physically destroy the Sentry. The problem comes when Sentry comes right back and puts the whammy on Owen. Owen can't resist or come back from the defeat as quickly as Bob can bring the Sentry back. Haven't you been paying attention? Not to be rude, but Bob has to be defeated or the Sentry has God Mode status.
I think youre over selling Bob. Plus the same argument that Sentry fans to hand wave Bobs low feat can be used to argue for Owen who has better high end feats by a mile
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think youre over selling Bob. Plus the same argument that Sentry fans to hand wave Bobs low feat can be used to argue for Owen who has better high end feats by a mile
Not really. You're crossing different forms of combat in an attempt to quantify the caliber of opponents. It doesn't work that way, and who did you see defeat DS Sentry? Sentry, Void, DS Sentry are all the same guy at different stages or circumstances. Bob learned how to use his powers when he upset Owen. You're entire argument falls apart if you consider the learning curve that Bob had to go through in order to use his powers to the extent that he shows as DS Sentry. Owen would lose again if they fought again.
Originally posted by Stoic
Not really. You're crossing different forms of combat in an attempt to quantify the caliber of opponents. It doesn't work that way, and who did you see defeat DS Sentry? Sentry, Void, DS Sentry are all the same guy at different stages or circumstances. Bob learned how to use his powers when he upset Owen. You're entire argument falls apart if you consider the learning curve that Bob had to go through in order to use his powers to the extent that he shows as DS Sentry. Owen would lose again if they fought again.
Well for 1. DS Sentry isnt just Sentry...hes Sentry plus the Death Seed. 2 that MM fight was an outlier and Owen wasnt mentally all there (a common argument used in defense of Sentry.
Any version of MM out side of Dark Regin MM would wreck Sentry a$$ period, Current MM is too of the charts for any version of Sentry, MM just pees on him its over. The dude put the whole omniverse/multiverse in a shoe box, a shoe box 🤨 , evil Molecule Man which was the most powerful incarnation of MM battle the beyonder to the point tha battle almost cause the multiverse to collapse on top of each other, cause a watcher in another universe to go blind. Sorry, not sorry MM wins.
Originally posted by Stoic
Not really. You're crossing different forms of combat in an attempt to quantify the caliber of opponents. It doesn't work that way, and who did you see defeat DS Sentry? Sentry, Void, DS Sentry are all the same guy at different stages or circumstances. Bob learned how to use his powers when he upset Owen. You're entire argument falls apart if you consider the learning curve that Bob had to go through in order to use his powers to the extent that he shows as DS Sentry. Owen would lose again if they fought again.
I love you (platonically).
All these Sentry fans will be seriously disappointed with the Sentry series
I do expect Marvel to keep an entire series ongoing with a Superman clone who is apparently (by some Sentry fans) the strongest being in the multiverse next to only TOAA
He will probably be kept at a similar level as Hulk but with ththe potential of going all darkside with his Void persona
Ugh, business as usual in a sentry thread.
Anyway, Stark's SPIN tech depowered sentry so you can be damn sure that a universal scale reality warper can too.
Not to mention that i recall several KO's/temp. KO's/straining to do trivial things for the sentry.
Im also having trouble seeing what sentry could do if... say Owen breaks apart the laws of physics (like in the Beyonder battle)? Or perhaps crush the universe in his hands, like his inferior Kubik was able to do? Or hell, just warp sentry out of existence?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Well for 1. DS Sentry isnt just Sentry...hes Sentry plus the Death Seed. 2 that MM fight was an outlier and Owen wasnt mentally all there (a common argument used in defense of Sentry.
Trying to understand how his mental instability would change the fact that Sentry came back and defeated him? What so if he were mentally stable he'd somehow change the outcome of Sentry finding out that he too could manipulate molecules on that level? When Owen invited Galactus into his pocket universe and asked him o take a seat, was he mentally stable? I saw a crack pot. Actually he appeared to be more stable when he lost to the Sentry than he was when he had his conversation with Galactus. I don't think that your argument is strong enough to deny that Sentry legitimately defeated Owen with ease.
Originally posted by operator616
Ugh, business as usual in a sentry thread.Anyway, Stark's SPIN tech depowered sentry so you can be damn sure that a universal scale reality warper can too.
Not to mention that i recall several KO's/temp. KO's/straining to do trivial things for the sentry.
Im also having trouble seeing what sentry could do if... say Owen breaks apart the laws of physics (like in the Beyonder battle)? Or perhaps crush the universe in his hands, like his inferior Kubik was able to do? Or hell, just warp sentry out of existence?
Molecule Man failed to do what you described.
It wasn't SPIN tech but a power drainer.