Originally posted by FrothByte
Oh it will hurt him. Even Zod's punches were hurting Superman and we've never seen Zod punch as strong as Hulk. But I doubt it would injury him.
We don't know if Zods punches were hurting Superman. No damage was being done.
Hurting is not well defined. The tiniest pain would be considered hurting right?
Originally posted by h1a8
We don't know if Zods punches were hurting Superman. No damage was being done.Hurting is not well defined. The tiniest pain would be considered hurting right?
If Zod's punches weren't harming him then he wouldn't have bothered blocking them. You don't need to be damaged in order to be hurt. I can take a punch to the shoulder without any damage, doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. You're confusing pain with injury.
Originally posted by h1a8
You are making a lot of mistakes. Did you lose your brains all of a sudden or do you sometimes let smart people post for you (or tell you what to post)?1. Hulk didn't stop it. He slowed it. You keep stating false things.
2. 50kg is mass, not force.
3. If the 80kg person has something to brace against (like a wall) then he can also slow the 250kg runner. Hulk braced on the concrete where he dug a hole in the ground and used the concrete behind his feet like a wall. This infinitely thick wall was breaking up, as Hulk was pushed back (therefore supplying the slowing force).
Note: applying any amount of force (no matter how small) to a moving object will slow them (even if it is a small reduction).
Dude, you are either idiotic or trolling!
You would never be able to either stop nor slow down 250kg man running the same way that Leviathan was!
Your physics are OUT OF THIS WORLD
1. Slow down a man that is 3x your weight with a punch, then come back and debate me.
You are making no sense!
2. I know that
3. You are seriously stupid! If you were to brace against a wall with a fat man coming over your, your arm would likely break!
And Hulk isn't bracing! The very same reason why Hulk didn't fully stopped the leviathan was because the floor beneath him was crumbling! Ergo, there wasn't enough friction! Hulk was being dragged!
You have no idea over physics dude
Originally posted by FrothByte
If Zod's punches weren't harming him then he wouldn't have bothered blocking them. You don't need to be damaged in order to be hurt. I can take a punch to the shoulder without any damage, doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. You're confusing pain with injury.
He didn't really block them.
But we can't know the level of hurt Clark felt, especially since this is fiction.
There are many different levels of pain.
No damage means very little to no pain. But that's just me.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Dude, you are either idiotic or trolling!You would never be able to either stop nor slow down 250kg man running the same way that Leviathan was!
[B]Your physics are OUT OF THIS WORLD
1. Slow down a man that is 3x your weight with a punch, then come back and debate me.
You are making no sense!
2. I know that
3. You are seriously stupid! If you were to brace against a wall with a fat man coming over your, your arm would likely break!
And Hulk isn't bracing! The very same reason why Hulk didn't fully stopped the leviathan was because the floor beneath him was crumbling! Ergo, there wasn't enough friction! Hulk was being dragged!
You have no idea over physics dude [/B]
Learn to read. I gave a specific stipulation of how it can be achieved. And you are moving the goalposts. You stated slow them down. Now you are saying slow then down exactly like the leviathan.
1. Do you know what "slow down" means? It means reduce the speed of something. Any amount of force, no matter how small WILL reduce the speed of an object, even if it's a minuscule amount.
2. So you purposely say dumb things?
3. You say a 250kg person. Now you are changing the goalposts again. Also, you are changing the point. Your arm breaking has nothing to do with punching power.
4. Hulk is bracing. His arm is extended and he is being pushed back. Not debatable. The ground crumbling does not change that. If Hulk wasn't bracing then what in the hell was he doing then? He certainly wasn't punching.
Here's something for you. How much frictional force is there when a football pushes a trainer? The football player's speed is greatly reduced upon impact.
Hell a much smaller person can stop and tackle a larger person.
Originally posted by h1a8
He didn't really block them.
But we can't know the level of hurt Clark felt, especially since this is fiction.
There are many different levels of pain.No damage means very little to no pain. But that's just me.
No damage means no injury. No pain means you can laugh off the hits. Superman clearly couldn't do that against Zod.
I rewatched the fight, you're right he wasn't blocking Zod's hits, he was trying to evade and dodge them. If they didn't hurt he wouldn't bother doing that. And if they didn't hurt he'd be able to just shrug them off instead of having a hard time getting back up.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No damage means no injury. No pain means you can laugh off the hits. Superman clearly couldn't do that against Zod.I rewatched the fight, you're right he wasn't blocking Zod's hits, he was trying to evade and dodge them. If they didn't hurt he wouldn't bother doing that. And if they didn't hurt he'd be able to just shrug them off instead of having a hard time getting back up.
You ignored this
"But we can't know the level of hurt Clark felt, especially since this is fiction.
There are many different levels of pain.
No damage means very little to no pain. But that's just me."
Originally posted by h1a8
You ignored this"But we can't know the level of hurt Clark felt, especially since this is fiction.
There are many different levels of pain.No damage means very little to no pain. But that's just me."
You can't know the level of hurt he felt, but the fact that he doesn't immediately get back up after getting hit by Zod means he's hurt quite a bit. Not enough to injure maybe but definitely enough that he can't take multiple hits.
You're right, that's just you. Only an idiot thinks that "no damage = no pain". Are you telling me I could punch you as hard as I want in the guts and as long as we don't see any damage on you then you won't be in pain.
Originally posted by FrothByteIt's amazing how you ignored my "very little pain" and focused on "no pain".
You can't know the level of hurt he felt, but the fact that he doesn't immediately get back up after getting hit by Zod means he's hurt quite a bit. Not enough to injure maybe but definitely enough that he can't take multiple hits.You're right, that's just you. Only an idiot thinks that "no damage = no pain". Are you telling me I could punch you as hard as I want in the guts and as long as we don't see any damage on you then you won't be in pain.
Zod hit Superman a bunch of times where Superman didnt miss a beat. Those times were at least very little pain.
And you are moving the goalposts. We are strickly talking about getting hit in the face with a fist. My statement wasn't a universal rule for every attack. And I will be bruised if you hit me hard enough in the gut.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on?
Facts.
Hulk's punch barely slowed the leviathan down by any amount. The majority of the feat was Hulk bracing against it to slow it down.
The punch part was pathetic.
Zod sent Superman to the top of a skyscraper. Superman still had enough speed at the top to significantly bust the top portion. In other words, Superman would have been sent way further if he did not make contact with the top.