Originally posted by leonidas
i think i would take namor in one and vision in 2. vihz has been depicted a couple times as a near equal to simon at max density. i think namor tops out above that, slightly. it would be a long battle though. which is why i think vision would win the second one.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
I do not think Namor is above Wonderman at his peak. Durability the negabomb will always put Simon above pretty much everyone. As for strength and speed, Simon is faster and in my opinion stronger. The Abomination fights put Simon above Namor. Wonderman gets no love Leo.
Originally posted by zopzop
People sleep on Vision but he is a legit powerhouse. Having said that I still think Namor wins after a very good fight assuming this is strictly H2H like the OP stated.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
I do not think Namor is above Wonderman at his peak. Durability the negabomb will always put Simon above pretty much everyone. As for strength and speed, Simon is faster and in my opinion stronger. The Abomination and Red Hulk fights put Simon above Namor. Wonderman gets no love Leo.
i dunno, maybe. simon did struggle with abomination more than namor. still, i'd think a fight between namor and simon would be terribly close. simon might be the more durable, and namor might be the stronger. maybe. be really close to a split imo.
Originally posted by leonidas
i dunno, maybe. simon did struggle with abomination more than namor. still, i'd think a fight between namor and simon would be terribly close. simon might be the more durable, and namor might be the stronger. maybe. be really close to a split imo.
Originally posted by zopzop
They already fought. A DYING Namor handled Simon till he got distracted by Whizzer. In a case of supreme irony the scans Team Simon used to prove Wonder Man would beat Namor in a fight backfired spectacularly! 😆
yeah i've seen that fight. i think if they fought now things might be different. simon has changed a bit since way back when they fought and has had some pretty good showings against guys in namor's weight class. i think it would for sure be more competitive at the least. /shrug
no one has ever really found something to make simon...fit. he's always been such an odd character in all his various incarnations.
Originally posted by leonidasSimon is rarely used well.
yeah i've seen that fight. i think if they fought now things might be different. simon has changed a bit since way back when they fought and has had some pretty good showings against guys in namor's weight class. i think it would for sure be more competitive at the least. /shrugno one has ever really found something to make simon...fit. he's always been such an odd character in all his various incarnations.
Originally posted by zopzopYou're right, I'm thinking of when Simon drove Namor into a ships Bulkhead not through it and then punched him on the jaw knocking him out cold.
WWII era Namor tooled Wonder Man and Ares SIMULTANEOUSLY. I think you got it backwards friend.
Regardless of context Wonderman can knock Namor out.
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i've seen that fight. i think if they fought now things might be different. simon has changed a bit since way back when they fought and has had some pretty good showings against guys in namor's weight class. i think it would for sure be more competitive at the least. /shrugno one has ever really found something to make simon...fit. he's always been such an odd character in all his various incarnations.