Originally posted by operator616Then, in my opinion, he got a second power boost after the nega bomb. I agree with Riv he was a douche for a while in west coast Avengers but by the time his series came around things had changed. My favourite Wonderman run was actually prior to this in Marvel Premiere as a backup story.
Simon had self-imposed mental blocks until the late 80s when he came clean about his past crimes to the public. After that, he received a power boost. Just an FYI for people here.
Originally posted by operator616
Simon had self-imposed mental blocks until the late 80s when he came clean about his past crimes to the public. After that, he received a power boost. Just an FYI for people here.
damn that was a long time ago. i actually remember that but don't remember where that was actually shown to be true. any idea where that was proven?
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Then, in my opinion, he got a second power boost after the nega bomb. I agree with Riv he was a douche for a while in west coast Avengers but by the time his series came around things had changed. My favourite Wonderman run was actually prior to this in Marvel Premiere as a backup story.
In wonder man's solo series? He didn't receive an amp, he just depowered himself and then restored them, after which he explored his powers further. It's exactly the same thing he's doing recently, in fact.
Originally posted by leonidas
damn that was a long time ago. i actually remember that but don't remember where that was actually shown to be true. any idea where that was proven?
It was right after he trashed Ultron-11. It was a gradual development.
Here is one from WCA #8: https://imgur.com/HWprovn
This another one from WCA #31: https://imgur.com/vQSC5CV
He went from a confirmed below thor level strength (previous avengers stories confirmed it) to a confirmed Thor+ level strength (WCA series). It was quite a clear development of power. Similar to what Superman underwent with Mongul (II) and after that.
Originally posted by operator616It was pretty much why Mephisto was so interested in him in my opinion. He is that powerful, but most people do not realise that or want to.
In wonder man's solo series? He didn't receive an amp, he just depowered himself and then restored them, after which he explored his powers further. It's exactly the same thing he's doing recently, in fact.It was right after he trashed Ultron-11. It was a gradual development.
Here is one from WCA #8: https://imgur.com/HWprovn
This another one from WCA #31: https://imgur.com/vQSC5CV
He went from a confirmed below thor level strength (previous avengers stories confirmed it) to a confirmed Thor+ level strength (WCA series). It was quite a clear development of power. Similar to what Superman underwent with Mongul (II) and after that.
Originally posted by operator616
In wonder man's solo series? He didn't receive an amp, he just depowered himself and then restored them, after which he explored his powers further. It's exactly the same thing he's doing recently, in fact.It was right after he trashed Ultron-11. It was a gradual development.
Here is one from WCA #8: https://imgur.com/HWprovn
This another one from WCA #31: https://imgur.com/vQSC5CV
He went from a confirmed below thor level strength (previous avengers stories confirmed it) to a confirmed Thor+ level strength (WCA series). It was quite a clear development of power. Similar to what Superman underwent with Mongul (II) and after that.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I remember back in the day people used to preach about Wonderman lifting and island. It's been a few years since I saw that one though.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Yeah, Hydrobase.
Thor never lifted it. It's a floating island, he was just dragging it in the ocean like a tug boat drags an ocean liner.
Quasar lifted it a few inches for a few seconds.
Originally posted by zopzopHe lifted the end of it balancing it. Wow, you are one of these guys who really hates a character... Newsflash: It's a story and subjective.
He never lifted it. The lava men that formed a huge column lifted it. He was balancing it but it was too heavy so the Invisible Woman had to step in and help.Thor never lifted it. It's a floating island, he was just dragging it in the ocean like a tug boat drags an ocean liner.
Quasar lifted it a few inches for a few seconds.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Umm, when a strongman lifts up the end of a car we say he lifted the car... It was just like a strongman lift and what was amazing was his belt jets held up, they usually burnt out under far less.
Yeah but lifting one end is quite different from lifting the whole thing....Still impressive though.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Umm, when a strongman lifts up the end of a car we say he lifted the car... It was just like a strongman lift and what was amazing was his belt jets held up, they usually burnt out under far less.
Yeah, but it doesn't make it accurate.
And not as impressive as say, if that strongman lifted the entire car and curled it or whatever. Pressed it overhead, whatever you want to use.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85You confuse accuracy for completeness, the information is incomplete but accurate. He lifted an Object. He being Wonderman and the object being Hydrobase. This is accurate. It omits how much of the object he lifted. This means the information is incomplete.
Yeah, but it doesn't make it accurate.And not as impressive as say, if that strongman lifted the entire car and curled it or whatever. Pressed it overhead, whatever you want to use.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
You confuse accuracy for completeness, the information is incomplete but accurate. He lifted an Object. He being Wonderman and the object being Hydrobase. This is accurate. It omits how much of the object he lifted. This means the information is incomplete.
So we agree, not as impressive as lifting it on his own.
So zopzop was accurate, if incomplete. Wonder Man never lifted an object. The statement omits the phrase 'on his own'.