In terms of raw power, Sentry is definitely above Shadow King telepathically. He didn't just mind wipe the MU, he erased himself from existence on a level that was basically reality manipulation. Entire events changed to fill the void of his existence in all corners of Marvel including the Inhumans, X-men, Avengers, Shield etc.
People bring up MM but that was imo his most impressive feat of power.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry removed the memories of everyone on Earth and Moon casually.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
In terms of raw power, Sentry is definitely above Shadow King telepathically. He didn't just mind wipe the MU, he erased himself from existence on a level that was basically reality manipulation. Entire events changed to fill the void of his existence in all corners of Marvel including the Inhumans, X-men, Avengers, Shield etc.People bring up MM but that was imo his most impressive feat of power.
shared feat
Originally posted by Sin I AMnaw youre mistaken. he had help with the mind wipe. it was a shared feat
The mind wipe happened multiple times. The last time it happened Sentry performed it on his own, without the help of Reed Richards and Doctor Strange.
This was the shared version:
- They try to do that again, but the Sentry remembers his past once again:
http://i.imgur.com/ZEjsxx6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lnSaUXm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/i9b3GGU.jpg
Scans from: Sentry VS Void
This is where Sentry did it with his own power:
- Later on the Sentry performs the same feat all by himself. Under Mastermind's control, who says that his powers work better on strong minds, Sentry erases the memories from not only humans on Earth and even the memories from the Inhumans on the Moon:
http://i.imgur.com/waonG9K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/29DT6F7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ieg3SjW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1XLGOtW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jvmXtWj.jpg
Scans from: New Avengers #9
Here is Sentry stating, that he can remove entire events from history books thanks to his power:
- Sentry says that he could easily remove events from history books, obviously by using powers he has already displayed:
http://i.imgur.com/mhClR2p.jpg
Scans from: New Avengers #24
Originally posted by RealityWarper
He didn't have help.He was tricked to use his telepathy to erase the memories of everyone, even his own.
this doesnt help your case, shadow king will do the same. reynolds is always a pawn.
Originally posted by Enzeru
The mind wipe happened multiple times. The last time it happened Sentry performed it on his own, without the help of Reed Richards and Doctor Strange.This was the shared version:
This is where Sentry did it with his own power:
Here is Sentry stating, that he can remove entire events from history books thanks to his power:
never said it wasnt his power. im saying its a shared feat for both sets of scans you provided.
the last set is hyperbole
Originally posted by Sin I AM
this doesnt help your case, shadow king will do the same. reynolds is always a pawn.never said it wasnt his power. im saying its a shared feat for both sets of scans you provided.
the last set is hyperbole
Shadow King never did the same.
It help my case because Reynolds effortlessly affected the SK wit h this attack.
Originally posted by Sin I AMthis doesnt help your case, shadow king will do the same. reynolds is always a pawn.
Shadow King takes other peoples free will and makes them do what he wants. No one ever came close to doing that to the Sentry. Every time they invaded his mind they got wrecked.
Sentry got manipulated by people, who studied him and manipulated / persuaded him into doing things on his own, because he thought it was the right thing to do.
Originally posted by Sin I AMnever said it wasnt his power. im saying its a shared feat for both sets of scans you provided.
Stop? Mastermind doesn't have the power to do what the Sentry did. Mastermind just manipulated him into doing these things. There is nothing shared about it. Someone telling you to beat the crap out of someone isn't a shared feat for the both of you. The actual action and damage are done by you.
Originally posted by Sin I AMthe last set is hyperbole
Stop? It would be hyperbole if the Sentry didn't have the ability to not only erase memories of people, but to also force them to completely ignore any evidence that points at that said memory.
@Sin It was Sentry's power that did the mind wipe.
The SK entering Sentry's mind would be like worst idea guys, common. If he's lucky, Sentry freaks out and flys away crying. Or he could get mad and rip him in half. Or if it's a BAD day, the Void would tentacle rape him in the dark place.
Entering the Sentry's mind when Reynolds is cooperating is very different from entering it in a fight.
Originally posted by Enzeru
Shadow King takes other peoples free will and makes them do what he wants. No one ever came close to doing that to the Sentry. Every time they invaded his mind they got wrecked.
Sentry got manipulated by people, who studied him and manipulated / persuaded him into doing things on his own, because he thought it was the right thing to do.Stop? Mastermind doesn't have the power to do what the Sentry did. Mastermind just manipulated him into doing these things. There is nothing shared about it. Someone telling you to beat the crap out of someone isn't a shared feat for the both of you. The actual action and damage are done by you.
Stop? It would be hyperbole if the Sentry didn't have the ability to not only erase memories of people, but to also force them to completely ignore any evidence that points at that said memory.
agree to disagree. great points but in my opinion he was mind raped by Wynn and has been manipulated more times than not to suggest he could beat a high order psi whose whole tacticnis manipulation
@Rage i never said it wasnt. But it was a shared feat akin to Emma schooling Iceman on his powers..yea its your car but someone else is driving
Originally posted by Sin I AMagree to disagree. great points but in my opinion he was mind raped by Wynn and has been manipulated more times than not to suggest he could beat a high order psi whose whole tacticnis manipulation
Read the Mastermind scans. Mastermind says that the stronger the opposing mind is, the more effective his powers are. So in a way Mastermind is tailor made to affect the Sentry and Sentry did more harm to himself. Shadow King does not have the same effect on his powers.
Doctor Strange has powerful PSI magic. He couldn't contain the Sentry. The combined powers of Xavier and Emma Frost couldn't contain the Sentry. What makes you think that Shadow King can, who has lost to Xavier?
I do think that Shadow King could affect the Sentry after a year long ambush and mental manipulation. But in a straight up fight? It's easier to make more compelling arguments for the Sentry.
And IMO that's not an agree-disagree topic. Pizza with pineapple being disgusting is an agree-disagree topic. While it's almost a fact that Shadow King can't just take Sentry out with telepathy in a straight up fight. If the combined powers of Xavier and Emma Frost can't, then neither can his.
