Thrawn: Alliances

Originally posted by Total Warrior
This is very very interesting. Also chiss>Empire? Really?

And now that we know more about [at least one of] the threats the Chiss fight against in the Unknown Regions, it makes sense for them to be an extremely formidable race by default.

It's also worth noting that Thrawn has full working knowledge of the Death Star and its capabilities in this novel, yet he still believes the Grysk can legitimately threaten the Empire. Crazy.

Thrawn, why don't you make youself a YouTube channel? You can be a successful YouTuber.

Originally posted by Galan007
It was implied in the first novel as well.

And now that we know more about [at least one of] the threats the Chiss fight against in the Unknown Regions, it makes sense for them to be an extremely formidable race by default.

It's also worth noting that Thrawn has full working knowledge of the Death Star and its capabilities in this novel, yet he still believes the Grysk can legitimately threaten the Empire. Crazy.

Just one hole though...if these Grysk are all prepared and stuff to invade, then why is it they didn't invade right after the Empire's collapse or early on in the Empire? It just seems strange given, if as you say they are all ready to take them on and can...that they just don't.

This is very very interesting. Also chiss>Empire? Really?

Well...I mean are you really that surprised?

Originally posted by Galan007
It was implied in the first novel as well.

And now that we know more about [at least one of] the threats the Chiss fight against in the Unknown Regions, it makes sense for them to be an extremely formidable race by default.

It's also worth noting that Thrawn has full working knowledge of the Death Star and its capabilities in this novel, yet he still believes the Grysk can legitimately threaten the Empire. Crazy.

Question

Is this book more like Tarkin and the first thrawn book or more action oriented with Vader cutting losse, I’ve always enjoyed books like the Darth babe trilogy and Darth Plaguies

It's Zahn. It's safe to say it's going to be the former.

Anyway, if the Chiss>Empire the that is stupid as shit.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Just one hole though...if these Grysk are all prepared and stuff to invade, then why is it they didn't invade right after the Empire's collapse or early on in the Empire? It just seems strange given, if as you say they are all ready to take them on and can...that they just don't.

...Though if it's going to directly involve Thrawn(who Vader surmised was the single most valuable being in the Empire, due to his extensive knowledge of the Unknown Regions), it needs to happen ASAP. Because as of the Rebels finale, he is obviously removed from play.

Originally posted by DarthPlaguis12
Question

Is this book more like Tarkin and the first thrawn book or more action oriented with Vader cutting losse, I've always enjoyed books like the Darth babe trilogy and Darth Plaguies

That said, Palpatine is still capable of sensing disturbances in the force from across the galaxy(Vader couldn't even sense the same disturbance until he was sitting right on top of it.) And Vader also states that Palpatine is > Bendu, for what that's worth. /shrug

Novels shouldn't really emphasise on Force feats, though.

Originally posted by Galan007
Something must happen after the events of this novel that prevents the Grysk from launching a full-scale invasion of the Empire. Only time will tell what that is.

...Though if it's going to directly involve Thrawn(who Vader surmised was the single most valuable being in the Empire, due to his extensive knowledge of the Unknown Regions), it needs to happen ASAP. Because as of the Rebels finale, he is obviously removed from play.

Definitely the former. Vader has a few moments to shine, but this novel isn't really intended to emphasize force feats and lightsaber battles.

That said, Palpatine is still capable of sensing disturbances in the force from across the galaxy(Vader couldn't even sense the same disturbance until he was sitting right on top of it.) And Vader also states that Palpatine is > Bendu, for what that's worth. /shrug

Scan for that last one?

-Thrawn: Alliances

Palpatine gets compared with an animal. 😂

This novel also explains why the Unknown Regions are so treacherous to traverse(the sentient threats lurking there notwithstanding.) In short, several millennia ago a set of chained supernova explosions threw planet and moon-sized debris at high speeds across the UR. The perpetual movement of those masses continuously alters the hyperlanes in ways that are nigh impossible to calculate(even for the Chiss.)

Moreover, it is also explained that the Chiss are able to explore/map the Unknown Regions because they use force-sensitive Chiss children(whose precog abilities are apparently quite uber) to do so.

Vader has never met the Bendu, has he? How would he know?

I'm not even saying Bendu is > Palpatine, but that sounded like just a generic "you don't know the power of the Dark side/my master!" threat to me.

In this novel it was made clear that Thrawn detailed the happenings on Atollon(including what he knew of Bendu) to Palpatine and Vader.

So at the very least, Vader knew Bendu was capable of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDKnYb_-d34&t=1m20s

Originally posted by Galan007
So the threat in this novel isn't the Yuuzhan Vong(thank God); it's a new species called the "Grysk".

They're a mildly force-sensitive warrior/conqueror race, described as "a wide-shouldered creature with angled brow ridges, a tapered skull, and deep-set eyes", and also have some very interesting technology at their disposal. Aside from that, we were given no direct characterization of any of their members.

However, they have been studying the Empire since the Clone Wars, and stand ready to invade it as of the end of this novel(which is set between Season 3 and Season 4 of Rebels.) Thrawn believes them to be a legitimate threat to both the Empire AND Chiss Ascendancy.

Also whats your take on these grysk? You thinking theyre basically the canon version of the Vong?

And Im assuming the Grysk are the "threat to the Empire" Thrawn spoke of in the first novel?

Originally posted by Mendax
Ive not read the novel- Was their technology expanded on at all? Im guessing it was pretty powerful?

-Blasters that shoot "lightning" as opposed to conventional bolts.

-Personal cloaking devices that mask them from nearly all types of scans/sensors.

-Each Grysk warrior can deploy thousands upon thousands of tiny weaponized bugs/flies that can be controlled remotely and sent hurling toward their opponents. When the insects make contact they release bursts of gray liquid which instantly solidifies into a stone-like substance so hard that it incapacitated Vader himself.

-During the Clone Wars, the Grysk gave Dooku the means of creating a new type of armor for his Separatist battle droids that was nigh-impervious to not only blaster bolts, but lightsaber strikes as well. Of course Palpatine swiftly put the kibosh on this 'breakthrough' when Dooku informed him of such, as it would have given the Separatists a significant advantage against the Republic.

-They have constructed gravity projectors that are capable of pulling entire Imperial fleets(including ISDs) out of hyperspace, and prevent them from jumping back into hyperspace... And they can do this from a considerable distance.

-Most impressively, the Grysk were using their tech to drag entire moons and planetary masses entirely out of their orbits and into existing hyperspace routes, just to disrupt Imperial hyperspace travel into particular quadrants of the Outer Rim/Unknown Regions.

Originally posted by Mendax
Also whats your take on these grysk? You thinking theyre basically the canon version of the Vong?

As for my take on them: Thrawn, who is intimately familiar with the Empire and its full military capabilities, still regards the Grysk as a legitimate threat to both the Chiss Ascendancy AND the Empire. That alone speaks volumes, imo.

At the end of the novel it was stated that the Grysk had adequately surveyed the Empire and stood ready to invade it. However, Thrawn essentially baited the Grysk into attacking his own Chiss Ascendancy first, which bought the Empire time to prepare for them. Again, there there's no telling what will ultimately stop the Grysk from launching a full-scale invasion of the Empire.

Originally posted by Mendax
And Im assuming the Grysk are the "threat to the Empire" Thrawn spoke of in the first novel?

Mr. Thrawn should write a book.

This thread saved me 40 bucks, tyvm.

I doubt this book costs 40bucks.

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Novels shouldn't really emphasise on Force feats, though.

Well...it is Star Wars

It’s like twenty not 40