Tyrant(fullpowered) VS. Runeking Thor, Supermanprime(guardian Amp)

Started by dynamix9 pages

@panthergod easy bro. its not that serious. just a heads up, these mods don't play. they will ban you. i've seen many get the hammer.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
the question isn't relevant to the debate, is it now kid?

SBP's powerset and the context of a loss is quite relevant to this debate.


How about you provide where it's shown Connor affecting Prime's confidence?

.. you didn't read Infinite Crisis or LO3W, as I specifically cited..?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Teen Titans best the stuffing out of him. Most of his other showings he’s trying to flee from the powerful teams. Context is everything and they ignore it.

A weakened Avengers STOMPED Thanos and jailed him!

Originally posted by panthergod
SBP's powerset and the context of a loss is quite relevant to this debate.

.. you didn't read Infinite Crisis or LO3W, as I specifically cited..?

IC never mentioned anything about Connor being a weakness to Prime's perfomance

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
A weakened Avengers STOMPED Thanos and jailed him!
False, but Thanos solos the universe. He’s too much but that’s off topic. Stay on point.

Tbh, I view blasts by Destroyer comparable to blasts by Tyrant.
If those blasts did nothing to King Thor then Tyrants blasts are doing nothing to RKT.

No one cares what your silly stances you can’t prove mean to you.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
IC never mentioned anything about Connor being a weakness to Prime's perfomance

SBP showed his emotional and mental state going all over the place during his first fight with Conner and the Titans. the only reason the Flashes were able to even BFR him is because he was mentally terrified due to killing those Titans(which establishes that the Titans trigger him emotionally starting with that encounter). In LO3W, it was confirmed that ****ing with his head was the key to victory, which is how Bart and Conner were able to outperform multiple Skyfather + beings against Prime -- taunting and ****ing with his head and emotional state/confidence drops his durability. Prime has the Silver Age Kryptonian powerset, and per Silver Age canon, kryptonians physical power levels can drastically fluctuate due to deep subconscious levels of fear or lack of confidence. This was a specific plot point in multiple stories.

Since you're so knowledgeable about Superman, you know this, of course.. so why are you questioning it? 😂

( BTW, Byrne established Gladiator's psionic/force of will dynamic power factor aspect in Post Crisis AFTER the seeing those Pre-Crisis stories highlighting this ability for Superman as a 'rational' explanation, then used it when writing his Post Crisis Superman stories.)

This is under Johns, who wrote multiple storylines highlighting this aspect of kryptonite powerset, including the same storyline IC via Superman and Kal-L and It's followup in Up, Up and Away.

No contested proof just theories from panther. Conjecture.

^basically.

I don't even know why i try to see if he'll be smart for once, guy does nothing but make up nonexistent conjecture to cover the losses for the super squad and insult when he can't show sufficent evidence for it

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I don't even know why i try to see if he'll be smart for once, guy does nothing but make up nonexistent conjecture to cover the losses for the super squad and insult when he can't show sufficent evidence for it
This is all he’s done for years. He will also create topics and go nuts when someone sides against his idea of who’d win. He doesn’t evolve.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No contested proof just theories from panther. Conjecture.

So because you don't read Superman comics those of us that do should ignore facts you're purposely lying about..? yeah ok. 😂

Nothing I said can be refuted on the merits, and the anti Superman fanboys are grasping for straws, as usual.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
^basically.

Concession accepted. you are now parroting quanSHE's dodge of facts.

I accept your pathetic failure for what it is.

Originally posted by panthergod
Prove that garbage opinion.
Prime couldn’t even convincingly beat a noob Sidon Yat who was weakened mid fight. A piss poor power up from a Guardian isn’t going to do much to help him. But keep crying about it though 👆

Originally posted by panthergod
So because you don't read Superman comics those of us that do should ignore facts you're purposely lying about..? yeah ok. 😂

Nothing I said can be refuted on the merits, and the anti Superman fanboys are grasping for straws, as usual.

You made a claim and can’t prove it. Your insane bias really believes you might have proven it but you didn’t. You just ramble on about nonsense between stories like it all adds up when it doesn’t.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You made a claim and can’t prove it. Your insane bias really believes you might have proven it but you didn’t. You just ramble on about nonsense between stories like it all adds up when it doesn’t.

👆

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I don't even know why i try to see if he'll be smart for once, guy does nothing but make up nonexistent conjecture to cover the losses for the super squad and insult when he can't show sufficent evidence for it

^ This is the who claimed to teach anyone else, let alone ME, about Superman ..

Pre-Crisis Superman's physical stats fluctuate based on his mind/psychologicsl and emotional state. His mental state can literally kill him, overcoming his physical stats. the entire context of SBP's power level relative to other characters is that he has the Silver Age Pre-Crisis powerset.

😂

Prime won against Sodam by exploting his lead weakness, which is analogue to Kryptonian's Kryptonite weakness and only then he managed to give some blows to lead poisoned Sodam and then KO him, but before the lead part, they were rather close.

Oh and BTW sinestor fodderized Kyle Rayner with ION, ION grants only green lantern level energy powers generally and power level just like with any other GL depends on skill and will power, which Sodam LACKED both, quite frankly yat wasn't using his powers as ION Lantern, but only his powers as DAXAMITE which is around kryptonian level, but i wouldn't call him superman level, not even close due to lack of feats, and EVEN THEN he still held his own against Prime.

Base Prime would get his shit torn if he tries to combat Thanos, let alone any mid tier in Marvel.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Prime couldn’t even convincingly beat a noob Sidon Yat who was weakened mid fight. A piss poor power up from a Guardian isn’t going to do much to help him. But keep crying about it though 👆

So.. more lies? lol.

SBP was playing with Ion-Sodom Yat with his innate stats. Easily. ONLY the Ion Power EP and aura amped attacks was able to effect him and knock him around and cause him pain. Ion= Skyfather class power.

later, of course, SBP was stomping 30th Century Prime with 100% of the power of the GLC.