Tyrant(fullpowered) VS. Runeking Thor, Supermanprime(guardian Amp)

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Prime won against Sodam by exploting his lead weakness, which is analogue to Kryptonian's Kryptonite weakness and only then he managed to give some blows to lead poisoned Sodam and then KO him, but before the lead part, they were rather close.

Mind, that's Daxamite stats+ ION GL power.

So.. yeah, EASILY Skyfather class power.

Oh and BTW sinestor fodderized Kyle Rayner with ION, ION grants only green lantern level energy powers generally

WRONG. Kyle was NOT Ion yet there in GL OWAW tie in. He was on the road to Ion, though, and amped beyond normal.

and power level just like with any other GL depends on skill and will power, which Sodam LACKED both, quite frankly yat wasn't using his powers as ION Lantern, but only his powers as DAXAMITE which is around kryptonian level, but i wouldn't call him superman level, not even close due to lack of feats, and EVEN THEN he still held his own against Prime.

By virtue of being a Daxamite, he is Above Class 100 level. Period. w? a standard GL ring, they can match Top tier/'Herald" level power. So Damaties(high herald)+ GL ring(herald level), AND THEN amped with Ion power(Skyfather level power).

Base Prime would get his shit torn if he tries to combat Thanos, let alone any mid tier in Marvel. [/B]

Odin too.

😆

Holy shit. This guy is really arguing from thin air.

Originally posted by panthergod
Mind, that's Daxamite stats+ ION GL power.

So.. yeah, EASILY Skyfather class power.

WRONG. Kyle was NOT Ion yet there in GL OWAW tie in. He was on the road to Ion, though, and amped beyond normal.

By virtue of being a Daxamite, he is Above Class 100 level. Period. w? a standard GL ring, they can match Top tier/'Herald" level power. So Damaties(high herald)+ GL ring(herald level), AND THEN amped with Ion power(Skyfather level power).

What is 'base' prime..? 'base prime i.e. standard prime tears Thanos limb from limb.

Odin too.

Except he hasn't done anything remotely impressive with ION, average daxamites are pretty fodder. Base Prime CONSISTENTLY strugged with superman level beings, even Krypto blooded him

Originally posted by panthergod
So.. more lies? lol.

SBP was playing with Ion-Sodom Yat with his innate stats. Easily. ONLY the Ion Power EP and aura amped attacks was able to effect him and knock him around and cause him pain. Ion= Skyfather class power.

later, of course, SBP was stomping 30th Century Prime with 100% of the power of the GLC.

meant to say 30th Century Sodam Yat w/ Ion Power and 10 GL rings.

Originally posted by panthergod
^ This is the who claimed to teach anyone else, let alone ME, about Superman ..

Pre-Crisis Superman's physical stats fluctuate based on his mind/psychologicsl and emotional state. His mental state can literally kill him, overcoming his physical stats. the entire context of SBP's power level relative to other characters is that he has the Silver Age Pre-Crisis powerset.

😂

This doesn't talk about him subconsciously fluctuating based on his mind.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Except he hasn't done anything remotely impressive with ION, average daxamites are pretty fodder. Base Prime CONSISTENTLY strugged with superman level beings, even Krypto blooded him

He struggled like a crazy against Conner Kent ! 😆

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Except he hasn't done anything remotely impressive with ION, average daxamites are pretty fodder.

What? average Daxamites are above top tier, as conclusively shown in Invasion crossover. Lar Gand/Mon-El still maintained all Pre-Crisis showings and feats into Post Crisis continuity. 3 Damamite diplomats--not soldiers or warriors, literally skinny twerps -- where well above Early Post Crisis pre DoS Superman, who is absolutely an Elite Class 100 top tier, specifically because Daxamites maintained their Pre-Crisis feat levels relative to Superman in Legion continuity who was weakened relative to his Pre-Crisis incarnation( we know now due to Dr. Manhattan splitting him apart and his more humanized mindset.)

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Base Prime CONSISTENTLY strugged with superman level beings, even Krypto blooded him

Name them all, then.

like Black Adam, you mean? that example alone prove what a liar you are.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
This doesn't talk about him subconsciously fluctuating based on his mind.

.. Yes it does.. Superman specifically is referring to a traumatic episode during his childhood that caused a subconscious fear to lower his physical stats, nearly causing him to die.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
He struggled like a crazy against Conner Kent ! 😆

.. this entire discussion is specificaslly about acknowledghing the stated context for why that is so.

From now on, according to you, Sentry<Human Torch, correct?

Originally posted by panthergod
What? average Daxamites are above top tier, as conclusively shown in Invasion crossover. Lar Gand/Mon-El still maintained all Pre-Crisis showings and feats into Post Crisis continuity. 3 Damamite diplomats--not soldiers or warriors, literally skinny twerps -- where well above Early Post Crisis pre DoS Superman, who is absolutely an Elite Class 100 top tier, specifically because Daxamites maintained their Pre-Crisis feat levels relative to Superman in Legion continuity who was weakened relative to his Pre-Crisis incarnation( we know now due to Dr. Manhattan splitting him apart and his more humanized mindset.)

Name them all, then.

like Black Adam, you mean? that example alone prove what a liar you are.

Ok? Mon El isn't Sodam Yat, nor can you claim all daxamites are as powerful as him unless you can show concrete solo feat for fodder daxamites. Mon only has that one off white dwarf feat which is 100% outlier. he's never ever done remotely anything impressive comparable to that decades later.

Originally posted by panthergod
.. this entire discussion is specificaslly about acknowledghing the stated context for why that is so.

From now on, according to you, Sentry<Human Torch, correct?

Sentry flew away because he was afraid that having a power-surge make him kill everyone.

He had delusions due to his mental state...

That's a completely different context but you can't have a normal argumentory so why bothering to answer me ? 😆

Superboy Prime had the help of his pals, including 3 superboys, before facing Conner. 😆

Seriously, go learn to debate and to make an addition too.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Ok? Mon El isn't Sodam Yat, nor can you claim all daxamites are as powerful as him unless you can show concrete solo feat for fodder daxamites.

Mon only has that one off white dwarf feat which is 100% outlier. he's never ever done remotely anything impressive comparable to that decades later.

He didnt do anything impressive in decades because HE WASNT IN COMICS for decades.

That version of Mon-El wouldn't bee seen until 20 years later. the Post Zero Hour Lar Gand/Valor/M'Onel is from another universe and was scaled down to be more competitive with standard Post Crisis top tiers.

Originally posted by panthergod
No, f*ck your obfuscations and dishonesty. explicit fodder effete scrawny nerd diplomat Daxamites are established as being>Class 100 top tier level in Invasion. Daxamites were known for being superior to Superman for years in Early Post Crisis due to this.. which means they are above top tier. All Pre-Crisis showings/feats for Daxamites are 100% canon through to Zero Hour, and post IC maintained that via LO3W as Post Zero Hour Legion/Daxamites are from another Universe due to Time Trappers machinations. Yat is well above scrawny diplomats, being that he is an athletic space cop without the yellow sun.

So more lies? He easily moves planets and moons and withstood attacks from the Time Trapper.

He didnt do anything impressive in decades because HE WASNT IN COMICS for decades.

That version of Mon-El wouldn't bee seen until 20 years later. the Post Zero Hour Lar Gand/Valor/M'Onel is from another universe and was scaled down to be more competitive with standard Post Crisis top tiers.

They weren't even full sized planets, let alone ARGUABLY a planet, that art's vague as hell

Show what they did in Invasion That was above CL100. This is why you have a hard time proving anyone wrong all the time because everything YOU say is full of misinterpreted context and nonsensencial nonsense

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry flew away because he was afraid that having a power-surge make him kill everyone.

He had delusions due to his mental state...

Superboy Prime had the help of his pals, including 3 superboys, before facing Conner. 😆

Seriously, go learn to debate and to make an addition too.

Originally posted by panthergod
[B]lol.. REALLY.

I wonder where that plot point came from..? hmmm...

Sentry's schizophrenia.

That's still irrelevant to the topic.

Using your argument--context for SBP's showings is irrelevant--, Human Torch> Sentry period.

You aren't using my argument.

You are using scans out-of-context and pulling arguments Ex Culo.

Nice Red Herring by the way.

You are poorly trying to shift the topic to Sentry after being caught lying about Superboy Prime.

And I'd better not ever see you argue otherwise if you're going to deny the Kryptonian powerset.

I'm not denying the kryptonian power-set.

I'm denying your interpretation and out-of-context scan.

So more lies and just typical idiocy from you. Ok.

Superboy had his Legion and 3 Superboys to help him against the Teen Titans.

He still got wrecked and struggled like a crazy against Conner.

Rofl;

You dare calling me a liar when all of your claims are based on your Argumentum Ex Culo and an idiot when you are incapable to make a basic addition. 😆

http://fanfest.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Superboy_Returns.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a0/6c/52/a06c5224150e44467cc096ad8937036f--superboy-prime-teen-titans.jpg

Teen Titans > Superemoboy Prime

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry's schizophrenia.

That's still irrelevant to the topic.

So you're too dense to comprehend allusion and subtext in storytelling .

Got it.

You aren't using my argument.

You are using scans out-of-context and pulling arguments Ex Culo.

Nice Red Herring by the way.

You are poorly trying to shift the topic to Sentry after being caught lying about Superboy Prime.

https://imgur.com/a/y2w9Z4B

Teen Titans > Superemoboy Prime

..And Human Torch>>>Sentry. Period.

Yeah Connor beating the shit out of Prime 3 consecutive times did decrease superboy confidence about being able to handle Thanos ALRIGHT LOL

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Ok? Mon El isn't Sodam Yat, nor can you claim all daxamites are as powerful as him unless you can show concrete solo feat for fodder daxamites.

Mon only has that one off white dwarf feat which is 100% outlier. he's never ever done remotely anything impressive comparable to that decades later.

You aren't in a position to judge any DC character's powerlevels at this point, kid.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Yeah Connor beating the shit out of Prime 3 consecutive times did decrease superboy confidence about being able to handle Thanos ALRIGHT LOL

He'd tear him apart while laughing at what a pale imitation of Darkseid he is..

Originally posted by panthergod
I don't have to, no did i ever argue such.

The point is, fodder Daxamites are above top tier/class 100 and maintain all Pre-Crisis showings. Period.

You aren't in a position to judge any DC character's powerlevels at this point, kid.

I'll imitate you

BECAUSE YOU say so?

Show feats from fodder daxamites that's above CL100, than the notion will become true, otherwise shut the hell up

Considering I've had to educate you a few times oN Dc? yeah I am in THE position son