Who is the More VILLAINOUS? Joker or Thanos?

You're actually arguing that Thanos thinking he had a good reason makes his murdering of untold trillions of people less evil than the Joker murdering a few people for fun?

yeah; quality over quantity... what were the motivations for his actions... this is what writers think of when they write villains dummy

Jokers motivations or lack thereof are much more villainous than Thanos.

You at least agree that Thanos committed the more evil act, right?

in terms of quantity sure but thats not really what the question is now is it? the question was who is the more villainous, not who committed the most heinous act and I know it seems like those are the same thing but they really aren't; you have to take mindset and motivations into account for that question to be properly answered

Did I say it was the question the OP asked? No.

It's called a tangent.

stick to the question, unless thats too difficult for you?

Let's play your game and take their mindset into account. Joker isn't really evil or a villain, he's just crazy and thus not mentally competent.

youre thinking comics, that hasn't been proved fact in the films... he kills indiscriminately and without emotion except maybe humor or finding death to be entertaining; thats a sick twisted individual much more evil than a guy who would cry at his daughters death or mourn what he did but basically saying it had to be done so the rest could survive, thats a messed up individual to be sure but one that at least THINKS hes doing a greater good.

It reminds me of the Imitation Game, have you seen this film?? anyways in it they crack the German code and can stop a boat of civilians from being blown up by said Germans but they dont because to do so would mean letting the Germans know that they cracked their code thus blowing their advantage and possibly the war itself. Now are these guys evil because they had a chance to save some people but chose not to for the greater good??

This is an exact example of Thanos' mindset; hes got a messed up world view to be sure but everything he does is in service of an actual greater good because who's to say the universe WOULDNT be better off if only half of its occupants existed?? Able to better use the resources provided and all that...

Joker on the other hand is pure malevolence; he kills indiscriminately because he has absolutely no value for sentient life at all... put it this way; give him the gauntlet and watch him torture and kill ALL the universe for no other reason than his sick pleasure

So your argument is that he isn't crazy in the movie?

Originally posted by relentless1
lol you keep saying Joker is weak and all that nonsense but the question actually is who is more villainous.... Thanos did what he did for a just reason which makes him automatically less evil than someone like the Joker who kills for fun and the random chaos of it... Jokers plan in TDK was to corrupt Gotham City for no other reason than to prove that everyone is a sick puppy on the inside... 89 Joker wanted to control the mob and when he did that he wanted to kill everyone in Gotham just for the hell of it... the guy kills for ENJOYMENT... thats much more villainous and evil than Thanos who had a good reason for doing what he did.... from a certain point of view.

Look we get it you love Thanos and he was a great antagonist in a great film but he cant win em all... I think people would respect you a lot more if you dropped the bias Quan, maybe just on these little battles even... food for thought anyways.

Joker is more of an idiot who kills because it feels good this disproving your own theory. Thanos killed someone who mattered to him and he didn’t enjoy it. That’s much harder to do than carry out an impulse you derive pleasure in. He’s a crazy loon with no rhyme or reason. He’s more chaotic and small time. This isn’t about chaotic and small time this is about who is a bigger villain.

Comparing Gotham’s population to half of the universe is truly a pitiful argument. I don’t care what your opinion is of me and my objectivity. I made a sound case you have been unable to refute.

im arguing the mental capacity; something thats been well established in comics but not in films... keep up will ya

i love how you gloss over the Thanos/Joker/Gauntlet question btw, do you think Joker would be as benevolent as Thanos with that same power???

Originally posted by relentless1
im arguing the mental capacity; something thats been well established in comics but not in films... keep up will ya

You have to actually tell me your argument before you can claim that I'm not keeping up. are you arguing that movie Joker isn't crazy?

It's a simple yes or no question, surely that isn't too much for someone like you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You have to actually tell me your argument before you can claim that I'm not keeping up. are you arguing that movie Joker isn't crazy?

It's a simple yes or no question, surely that isn't too much for someone like you.

ok... so you dont know how to read clearly... i said im arguing mental capacity... on can be "crazy" and still be aware of their actions so yeah TRY to keep up please because i dont like repeating myself

Originally posted by relentless1
i love how you gloss over the Thanos/Joker/Gauntlet question btw, do you think Joker would be as benevolent as Thanos with that same power???

Originally posted by relentless1
ok... so you dont know how to read clearly... i said im arguing mental capacity... on can be "crazy" and still be aware of their actions so yeah TRY to keep up please because i dont like repeating myself

Wow, you couldn't even answer a simple yes or no question, that was pathetic. But since I'm such a nice guy. I'll give you another chance.

Are you arguing that movie Joker isn't crazy?

Quan you foolish fellow, we aren't talking about the act because then the post would be "who committed the most villainous ACT" we are talking about the most villainous character and Thanos cares too much; his goals are too noble though twisted to be even remotely as evil as a random chaotic killing machine like Joker

Originally posted by relentless1
Quan you foolish fellow, we aren't talking about the act because then the post would be "who committed the most villainous ACT" we are talking about the most villainous character and Thanos cares too much; his goals are too noble though twisted to be even remotely as evil as a random chaotic killing machine like Joker

damn reading comprehension is tough for you Silent, I know youre trying to say that crazy and mental capacity are solidly linked which is a cute argument but heres my answer for you yet again... sorry its not as simple as yes or no but this ought to do...

Originally posted by relentless1
one can be "crazy" and still be aware of their actions

Joker rode his impulses like a drug addict. He’s not even unique in any regard save the weakest villain I can recall. Who can’t beat this guy in a fight...seriously.