Originally posted by Silent Master
I was in no way dishonest in my question to the mod in that scenario. Bottom-line, it was your fan calculations versus the people who did the CGI for Surtur.The fact that your fan calculations disagreed with the people that created Surtur just proves that your calculations can't be trusted.
You were 100% Conniving and devious.
You clearly ask the mod
My words vs producers
Instead of what we see vs producers words
We clearly see how big Hulk is in relation to Surtur. By you not addressing that and twisting words makes you dishonest.
I don’t want anyone to trust my calculations without doing the calculations themselves. I assume others will check the calculations when I post them.
You were 100% Conniving and devious.
You clearly ask the mod
My words vs producers
Instead of what we see vs producers words
We clearly see how big Hulk is in relation to Surtur. By you not addressing that and twisting words makes you dishonest.
I don’t want anyone to trust my calculations without doing the calculations themselves. I assume others will check the calculations when I post them.
Originally posted by h1a8
Let’s say that Thanos can manage to close his hand while being a statue. What will happen then?
Anything he wishes.
He could warp the entire world into Kryptonite. Or turn off the sun. Or warp space between him and superman making it impossible for him to ever reach him.
Thanos wins.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Anything he wishes.He could warp the entire world into Kryptonite. Or turn off the sun. Or warp space between him and superman making it impossible for him to ever reach him.
Thanos wins.
He can only use one gem at a time.
He wouldn't think of turning off the sun, killing everyone and not knowing Superman's weakness. And turning off the Sun doesn't instantly makes Superman powerless. He has power stored in him. Plus I don't think Thanos can turn off the Sun with 1 gem.
He wouldn't warp the space around him to prevent Superman from getting to him because he never done it. I can argue that he wouldn't think of it and it isn't his style. Thats assuming that he is capable of doing that. Especially being a statue while Superman is constantly moving.
So try again. What else could Thanos do the instant he closes hand?
Originally posted by h1a8
He can only use one gem at a time.He wouldn't think of turning off the sun, killing everyone and not knowing Superman's weakness. And turning off the Sun doesn't instantly makes Superman powerless. He has power stored in him. Plus I don't think Thanos can turn off the Sun with 1 gem.
He wouldn't warp the space around him to prevent Superman from getting to him because he never done it. I can argue that he wouldn't think of it and it isn't his style. Thats assuming that he is capable of doing that. Especially being a statue while Superman is constantly moving.
So try again. What else could Thanos do the instant he closes hand?
The Reality Stone can warp reality as wished. The Sun can be turned off and the earth can be warped into Kryptonite.
The Space stone has power over all of space ergo am right.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The Reality Stone can warp reality as wished. The Sun can be turned off and the earth can be warped into Kryptonite.The Space stone has power over all of space ergo am right.
No limit fallacy.
There are no feats by Thanos suggesting that he can affect something on the magnitude of a star with a single gem. Hell, a weapon forged from a star was resistant against the stones blast.
Otherwise, what will be the purpose of the other gems? Wouldn't reality stone achieve the same effects (if we use no limit fallacy)?
And like I said, even if Thanos can pull it off then you still have the problem of
1. Choice (knowing the consequences of)
2. Creativity (will he even think of it
3. Superman will retain his power for at least an hour or so because of the energy he stored.
Thanos don't know what Kryptonite is made of. And Thanos is loosely aware of Superman's abilities, not his weaknesses.
So try again
Originally posted by h1a8
No limit fallacy.There are no feats by Thanos suggesting that he can affect something on the magnitude of a star with a single gem. Hell, a weapon forged from a star was resistant against the stones blast.
Otherwise, what will be the purpose of the other gems? Wouldn't reality stone achieve the same effects (if we use no limit fallacy)?
And like I said, even if Thanos can pull it off then you still have the problem of
1. Choice (knowing the consequences of)
2. Creativity (will he even think of it
3. Superman will retain his power for at least an hour or so because of the energy he stored.Thanos don't know what Kryptonite is made of. And Thanos is loosely aware of Superman's abilities, not his weaknesses.
So try again
Ive already refuted such argument previously. I think it was to you in fact.
The Infinity Stones have no limit to their capacity. They can affect their given aspect of the Universe.
It isnt a fallacy cause they are "Universal" weapons.
Thanos required all stones because he wanted to affect ALL aspects of the Universe. Doesnt mean the space stone isnt universal in its own aspect for instance.
Superman loses.
Superman stomps. Darkseid (He was clearly Darkseid. No idea why they called him Steppenwolf) stood against actual GODS, like Zeus and such, in addition to a band of GL's, Amazonians, Atlantians.. Thor by himself could have killed Thanos, if all he had was the power gem. He even would have killed him with the entire gauntlet, if he aimed for the head.
Steph would have wiped out that same Thor without breaking a sweat.
Superman solo's the MCU, just like he did the DCU.
Originally posted by cdtm
Superman stomps. Darkseid (He was clearly Darkseid. No idea why they called him Steppenwolf) stood against actual GODS, like Zeus and such, in addition to a band of GL's, Amazonians, Atlantians.. Thor by himself could have killed Thanos, if all he had was the power gem. He even would have killed him with the entire gauntlet, if he aimed for the head.Steph would have wiped out that same Thor without breaking a sweat.
Superman solo's the MCU, just like he did the DCU.
He was Steppenwolf. You don't get to just invent characters. DC's Zeus, greenlanters and Atlantians are still pretty much featless at this point. We know the Amazonians already had a hard time fighting off WW1 soldiers so they're really not all that impressive. Plus Steppenwolf had an army of parademons by his side.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Ive already refuted such argument previously. I think it was to you in fact.The Infinity Stones have no limit to their capacity. They can affect their given aspect of the Universe.
It isnt a fallacy cause they are "Universal" weapons.
Thanos required all stones because he wanted to affect ALL aspects of the Universe. Doesnt mean the space stone isnt universal in its own aspect for instance.
Superman loses.
Prove it. What feats show that they have no limit. Everything Thanos did was on a limited scale. For example, He didn’t vaporize people with punches proves that his strength was limited. We use feats here.
And you didn’t refute my other points. Till then it’s not a viable option.