Bloodlusted JL Superman vs. the MCU

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm asking where did Impediment posted that exact quote that Silent Master is using, not what the rules are.

Because the rules state that changing the stips of the match are not allowed, but it says nothing about clarifying the stips if there is some confusion regarding what they mean.

And if Impediment has a problem with that? Frankly, phuck him. It is idiotic and more to the point cowardly to try to dismiss the thread maker's clarification on the stips on a technicality just because they don't favor your side in some way. Go on and report me for saying that you limp-wristed gelatinous gerbil-dick. 👆

Well you dont sound that informed. 😂

The OP addes way more info than presented in the first few pages ergo modifying and changing the parameters of the original debate.

Therefore, its against regulations.

You are too retarded for that 😂

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you claiming that I lied to or mislead Imp?

Yes. Because that's what you do. Often!

I agree that OP can't add some of the things not mentioned (like MCU getting prep). But clarify what he meant about something is totally different.

The OP did go against the rules on some things but others he didn't.

Anyway. "knowledge" doesn't need clarity.

The PM sent to me read as:

"Once a thread reaches 13 pages, is a thread starter allowed to "clarify" the stips of a thread?

Thanks for your time."

Clarifying is one thing, but rearranging and altering the OP stips past page one are against MVF rules.

Originally posted by Impediment
The PM sent to me read as:

"Once a thread reaches 13 pages, is a thread starter allowed to "clarify" the stips of a thread?

Thanks for your time."

Clarifying is one thing, but rearranging and altering the OP stips past page one are against MVF rules.

Thank you! I agree 100%

Despite the 'clarification' Superman still loses.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thank you! I agree 100%

Which means you agree with me, because his "clarification" contained several added stipulations that weren't even hinted at in the Op.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes. Because that's what you do. Often!

I agree that OP can't add some of the things not mentioned (like MCU getting prep). But clarify what he meant about something is totally different.

The OP did go against the rules on some things but others he didn't.

Anyway. "knowledge" doesn't need clarity.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since your claim is that I've done it often, post multiple examples of me doing it or you're a liar.

That's too much work.
In one of your last messages to the mod you did this. Just post that one and I'll explain how you twisted the question to invoke an appropriate response.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's too much work.
In one of your last messages to the mod you did this. Just post that one and I'll explain how you twisted the question to invoke an appropriate response.

Incorrect, putting the word clarify in quotation marks was not misleading the mod, because even you admit that the thread starter did more than just clarify the OP.

So far you have zero examples, seeing as you claimed I've done it often. Looks like you're a liar.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Which means you agree with me, because his "clarification" contained several added stipulations that weren't even hinted at in the Op.

"Loosely aware of Superman's abilities" > general knowledge of Superman's powerset and potency, as well as his weakness.

"Superman has knowledge and tactical prep time" > can watch every MCU film as much as he wants/has the knowledge a viewer would have, gets as much time as he wants to come up with a plan.

Superman and the MCU characters are all somewhere in NYC > Superman has a fixed location in the center in the sky, the MCU characters can start wherever they want.

The only things Ellimist added that were entirely new stipulations as opposed to clarifications on what was already said were the MCU getting two minutes to discuss how to deal with Superman, and both sides being aware of where the others are located.

Which, if you want to throw those two out go ahead. 👆

The removal of both stips heavily favors Superman. 🙂

Originally posted by Silent Master
Incorrect, putting the word clarify in quotation marks was not misleading the mod, because even you admit that the thread starter did more than just clarify the OP.

So far you have zero examples, seeing as you claimed I've done it often. Looks like you're a liar.

I'm not talking about for this thread. I'm talking about the other threads. You always use misleading language and twist shit to trick people. You are nothing more than a con artist. Why create strawman or move goalposts? If you are right then let the strength of the truth stand on its own. No need to alter shit in a misleading way.

You have provided no proof for that claim, so either you're a liar or just dumb. Which is it?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You have provided no proof for that claim, so either you're a liar or just dumb. Which is it?

You already know what I'm talking about?

Here's an example.
You pm imp and asked him
"Whose word is canon in regards to Surtur's height. the people who did the special effects for the movie or h1?"

The question is misleading because the actual debate was about whether what SEE onscreen >>> contradicting INTERVIEW. It was never about my word vs the producers." H1's word" is the misleading part. We all can see Surtur's height in relation to Hulk's and scale from there. No need to take my word for it, just do the measurements yourself.

So again ONSCREEN FACTS VS PRODUCERS WORD

NOT

h1's word vs producers word

That isn't misleading or a lie. you were arguing that the people that made the movie were wrong.

It was explained to you why Hulk looked so big in comparsion during that one scene.

lmfao what is going on here?

There's a difference between adding information that contradicts the OP or comes out of left field, and adding information that clarifies its ambiguous areas. If the latter isn't allowed past an artificial page limit then how do you resolve said ambiguities? These are constructs of an invented scenario, so they're not up to debate because they're not unto themselves derived from evidence; they're fiats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That isn't misleading or a lie. you were arguing that the people that made the movie were wrong.

It was explained to you why Hulk looked so big in comparsion during that one scene.

You worded it misleading.
It’s not my word vs producers.
It’s what we see vs producers word.

That other stuff is irrelevant to this discussion.

What we saw onscreen was that Surtur towered over Asgard's palace, but you didn't want to use that scene because it would prove the 800m number correct.

You were the one being dishonest.

However, even if we count that as a valid example(it isn't) that still doesn't come close to proving your claim, as your claim was that I do it often.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What we saw onscreen was that Surtur towered over Asgard's palace, but you didn't want to use that scene because it would prove the 800m number correct.

You were the one being dishonest.

However, even if we count that as a valid example(it isn't) that still doesn't come close to proving your claim, as your claim was that I do it often.

Do you have the heights of the structures Surtur was next to?
If you have any concrete evidence of a single structure's approximate height in which Surtur was standing next to before Hulk struck him then I'll gladly except it OVER the scene where Hulk is next to Surtur.

I was in no way dishonest in my question to the mod in that scenario. Bottom-line, it was your fan calculations versus the people who did the CGI for Surtur.

The fact that your fan calculations disagreed with the people that created Surtur just proves that your calculations can't be trusted.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I was in no way dishonest in my question to the mod in that scenario. Bottom-line, it was your fan calculations versus the people who did the CGI for Surtur.

The fact that your fan calculations disagreed with the people that created Surtur just proves that your calculations can't be trusted.

You were 100% Conniving and devious.
You clearly ask the mod
My words vs producers
Instead of what we see vs producers words

We clearly see how big Hulk is in relation to Surtur. By you not addressing that and twisting words makes you dishonest.

I don’t want anyone to trust my calculations without doing the calculations themselves. I assume others will check the calculations when I post them.