Carver Talks: Comparisons

Started by Stoic12 pages

Originally posted by carver9
And this proves you're a hypocrite or the highest order and you say thing when it suits you. Anyone else wouldve caught on to my question. In your previous post you mention Hulk might heat Superman in comics but on KMC (debating powerset), Superman would beat him and become this untouchable, punching across universe being. You then do the opposite for Surfer because your debating style sucks.

Show me Thanos surviving a Black hole inside of his brain. Dont debate powerset and then take it away when it doesnt benefit you.

You're pretty stupid Carver. No wonder everyone rides you so hard. Pretend as if I am speaking to you in childlike English so this way you may be able to understand. If you were Superman, would you let someone that moves much slower than you do ever touch you if you knew that they increased in power as time went on? Or, would you immediately BFR them? Your question became irrelevant the moment that it popped into your mind, because the Hulk has a huge hole in his defenses. He can not fly. Think before you type shit out of anger.

Superman VERSUS Thor

HULK

Superman:

ROUND 2

HULK

Thor:

Notice the gulf in competence between when Bran used scans for a case and when LordOfBoise attempted to

Really I blame Carver for this cause a punching bag is only good for inviting punishment

Originally posted by Stoic
You're pretty stupid Carver. No wonder everyone rides you so hard. Pretend as if I am speaking to you in childlike English so this way you may be able to understand. If you were Superman, would you let someone that moves much slower than you do ever touch you if you knew that they increased in power as time went on? Or, would you immediately BFR them? Your question became irrelevant the moment that it popped into your mind, because the Hulk has a huge hole in his defenses. He can not fly. Think before you type shit out of anger.

I think the point of my post went completely over your head. Let me re word it for you so that you'll understand and look at what I'm doing here. If you were Surfer and you were fighting Thanos and you had the ability to open Black Holes in someone's brain, would you do it? I'm sure 3veryone else know what I am doing here. Your comprehension level.

Originally posted by carver9
I think the point of my post went completely over your head. Let me re word it for you so that you'll understand and look at what I'm doing here. If you were Surfer and you were fighting Thanos and you had the ability to open Black Holes in someone's brain, would you do it? I'm sure 3veryone else know what I am doing here. Your comprehension level.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Notice the gulf in competence between when Bran used scans for a case and when LordOfBoise attempted to

Really I blame Carver for this cause a punching bag is only good for inviting punishment

SILENCE YOU GAMMITE IMBECILE!!!

Originally posted by carver9
I think the point of my post went completely over your head. Let me re word it for you so that you'll understand and look at what I'm doing here. If you were Surfer and you were fighting Thanos and you had the ability to open Black Holes in someone's brain, would you do it? I'm sure 3veryone else know what I am doing here. Your comprehension level.

First you'd have to prove that this tactic would work. Didn't I say that already? Also I'd like you to show me when the Surfer opened black holes inside of another characters brain. Now let's go back to the part that you obviously failed to understand. Thanos has defenses, and also happens to be an extremely powerful telepath.

When in the Surfer's entire history has he been up to defeating Thanos?

Your problem is the fact that the Hulk would lose to Thanos, Surfer, Superman, and several other characters while you sit back in denial lying about him being top dog of the herald class. You can't accept it, but guess what? Your denial doesn't change the fact that the Hulk can't stop from being repeatedly BFR'd, he's been drained by the Surfer on several occasions, came out looking pathetic in every reality that he has ever tried to defeat Thanos... and the list goes on.

You claimed that I brought power set up, and refused to acknowledge something that has never happened. You want me to prove that Thanos can resist a black hole to the brain, while you have yet to prove that this tactic would work. Pretty dumb Carver, but then again it's not very surprising coming from you.

I noticed something else as well. Instead of putting on your big boy pants and accepting that most heralds could just repeatedly toss the Hulk out into space for the quick win, you bring up the Surfer in an idiotic attempt to bypass the fact that you really can't deny that most top tiers can exploit the hell out of the land locked Hulk.

To actually believe that you've pulled the wool over anyone's eyes is comic gold. You're just a slime ball. Who do you actually deal with in real life that allows you to get away with this level of bullshit?

Your first claim wasn't about the question that you asked me. You came in here making claims that the Hulk could take on Thanos, and stand at the top of the Herald class. When that failed, you then decide to bring in the Surfer. Listen stop playing yourself, because you'll have to wake up earlier in the morning to play me.

Now let's talk about this shit about you calling me a hypocrite you little slug. Superman has the speed, power, durability, and strength, to punch an object the size of the Hulk into deep space, and still be within the limits of his character. You brought something way out of character for the Surfer to do, and then proceeded to have the balls to name call, after attempting to slide away from your original bullshit claim. So again your question was irrelevant, because the scenario that you brought up has never happened to my knowledge, and if it has, it certainly isn't the Surfer's go to move. You're such an idiot. While on the other hand, Thanos in a weaker form than he is currently in has a history of beating the Surfer up. He even beat him to death.

The Hulk beat Thanos.... Lol.

Originally posted by Stoic
First you'd have to prove that this tactic would work. Didn't I say that already? Also I'd like you to show me when the Surfer opened black holes inside of another characters brain. Now let's go back to the part that you obviously failed to understand. Thanos has defenses, and also happens to be an extremely powerful telepath.

When in the Surfer's entire history has he been up to defeating Thanos?

Your problem is the fact that the Hulk would lose to Thanos, Surfer, Superman, and several other characters while you sit back in denial lying about him being top dog of the herald class. You can't accept it, but guess what? Your denial doesn't change the fact that the Hulk can't stop from being repeatedly BFR'd, he's been drained by the Surfer on several occasions, came out looking pathetic in every reality that he has ever tried to defeat Thanos... and the list goes on.

You claimed that I brought power set up, and refused to acknowledge something that has never happened. You want me to prove that Thanos can resist a black hole to the brain, while you have yet to prove that this tactic would work. Pretty dumb Carver, but then again it's not very surprising coming from you.

I noticed something else as well. Instead of putting on your big boy pants and accepting that most heralds could just repeatedly toss the Hulk out into space for the quick win, you bring up the Surfer in an idiotic attempt to bypass the fact that you really can't deny that most top tiers can exploit the hell out of the land locked Hulk.

To actually believe that you've pulled the wool over anyone's eyes is comic gold. You're just a slime ball. Who do you actually deal with in real life that allows you to get away with this level of bullshit?

Your first claim wasn't about the question that you asked me. You came in here making claims that the Hulk could take on Thanos, and stand at the top of the Herald class. When that failed, you then decide to bring in the Surfer. Listen stop playing yourself, because you'll have to wake up earlier in the morning to play me.

Now let's talk about this shit about you calling me a hypocrite you little slug. Superman has the speed, power, durability, and strength, to punch an object the size of the Hulk into deep space, and still be within the limits of his character. You brought something way out of character for the Surfer to do, and then proceeded to have the balls to name call, after attempting to slide away from your original bullshit claim. So again your question was irrelevant, because the scenario that you brought up has never happened to my knowledge, and if it has, it certainly isn't the Surfer's go to move. You're such an idiot. While on the other hand, Thanos in a weaker form than he is currently in has a history of beating the Surfer up. He even beat him to death.

The Hulk beat Thanos.... Lol.

This is the worst style of debating ever. No one on this website would give Superman the majority over HP Doomsday due to this illogical reason and it isnt happening here. I asked you the Surfer question because it makes your argument look dumb because you know Surfer will not fight like this and you know Thanos could pull a majority. Now if we create the same type of scenario you've created, then Surfer stomps and this is using your non logical way of debating. Then, you dont even get it. YOU SAID THAT IN A COMIC HULK COULD BEAT SUPERMAN BUT ON THE FORUM HE CANT but then you mention Thanos IN A COMIC beating Surfer. Your comprehension is child like.

You are a hypocrite.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]SILENCE YOU GAMMITE IMBECILE!!! [/B]

Originally posted by carver9
This is the worst style of debating ever. No one on this website would give Superman the majority over HP Doomsday due to this illogical reason and it isnt happening here. I asked you the Surfer question because it makes your argument look dumb because you know Surfer will not fight like this and you know Thanos could pull a majority. Now if we create the same type of scenario you've created, then Surfer stomps and this is using your non logical way of debating. Then, you dont even get it. YOU SAID THAT IN A COMIC HULK COULD BEAT SUPERMAN BUT ON THE FORUM HE CANT but then you mention Thanos IN A COMIC beating Surfer. Your comprehension is child like.

You are a hypocrite.

You'd better go back and re-read what I wrote concerning the Hulk vs Superman. Even in a comic book with PIS it would be Superman's fight to lose. Superman is already up there in strength. Then there's his speed, freeze breath, and the rest of the powers that he is free to use to make things even more one sided.

The fact that you once said that Superman was the only top tier that you worried about in concerns to the Hulk shows how ignorant you are. The Surfer makes a fool of the Hulk 9 out of 10 times if he isn't jobbing whenever they have a confrontation. Look what Thor did to an amped version of the Hulk. Yep you guessed it BFR.... Again.

Yeah but you had best go back and re-read what I wrote, because I did not say anything about the Hulk beating Superman in my post. Once you do, and are able to put on your big boy pants an apology would be accepted, although I highly doubt that you're big enough to do so.

Superman should absolutely never lose to the Hulk without PIS. Ever.

Don't pretend as if your question was some sort of puzzle Carver. I understood it beyond the surface bullshit that you'd like people to believe. This isn't a debate crackhead, it's your attempt at back pedaling. Your first statement was that the Hulk was greater than all of the Heralds of the highest echelon, and then you proceeded to attempt to drag Thanos down to his level. Marvel has made it clear where they prefer to keep the Hulk. They even performed brain surgery on him so that he'd forget how to raise his might on a whim. Perhaps you should make an appointment yourself.

I told you what you did, and you still want to pretend that this was the basis of your argument. The Surfer has never defeated Thanos, and now that he has grown in power his chances of winning are even slimmer than they were when Thanos beat him to death.

Thanos is a telepath, he also has shields, and force cube tech. The tactic that you're attempting to pathetically validate is not the Surfer's go to move (do I have to repeat this until it sink into that skull crust?). Why are you stuck on stupid Carver? At this point, I can't wait until the other posters dig into your ass, I'll be silently cheering them on because you're the absolute most dishonest poster on this board.

WTF does HP Doomsday have to do with anything now? You have more Strawmen than a phucking farmer.

The scenario that I created? Surfer is Marvel's version of J'onn Jonnz as far a personality or character type goes. Thanos is a flipping murderer. Who do you think would shoot the silver bullet first? Are you going to pretend that the Surfer is faster than Thanos now? Thanos would and can keep pace with the Surfer. Did you see his fight against Thane? If so stop acting as if the Surfer has some sort of advantage here. Thanos has cosmic powers, telepathy, mysticism, and a bunch of powers that the Surfer does not have. He's actually one of the few characters that has the ability to outdo the Surfer in terms of versatility, and you're still talking about black holes to the brain.

Stop the bullshit you've already been caught. You're entire stance is due to the Hulk being a one trick pony when compared to other top tiers. If he ever fought Thanos, Thanos would have dozens of ways of beating him. But continue the charade pretending that you wanted to make some idiotic example of how your version of the Surfer would beat a guy that literally beat him to death, and clowned him in nearly every other conflict that they had.

You'd think that since you've failed to trick 14 yr old posters that you'd think things through, but no... you keep on going!!!

I think I'll begin quoting you every time I see you step on your dick and kick yourself in the nuts.

Stoic, you're argument is disingenuous.

Surfer matches well against classic Hulk due to versatility.

Hulk fights Thor as a peer classically and more recently dominates him.

Thor has usually dominated Surfer mroe often than not.

Hulk has directly demonstrated superior raw innate power potential than Surfer, and that isn't up for dispute.

Starlin himself has Thanos avoid confrontation with the Hulk.

Using his relative showings-- which are wildly VARIABLE based on his powerset -- it is absolutely logical to argue that Hulk can and has reached a level superior to Thanos in terms of raw power.

Originally posted by Stoic
You'd better go back and re-read what I wrote concerning the Hulk vs Superman. Even in a comic book with PIS it would be Superman's fight to lose. Superman is already up there in strength. Then there's his speed, freeze breath, and the rest of the powers that he is free to use to make things even more one sided.

The fact that you once said that Superman was the only top tier that you worried about in concerns to the Hulk shows how ignorant you are. The Surfer makes a fool of the Hulk 9 out of 10 times if he isn't jobbing whenever they have a confrontation. Look what Thor did to an amped version of the Hulk. Yep you guessed it BFR.... Again.

Yeah but you had best go back and re-read what I wrote, because I did not say anything about the Hulk beating Superman in my post. Once you do, and are able to put on your big boy pants an apology would be accepted, although I highly doubt that you're big enough to do so.

Superman should absolutely never lose to the Hulk without PIS. Ever.

Don't pretend as if your question was some sort of puzzle Carver. I understood it beyond the surface bullshit that you'd like people to believe. This isn't a debate crackhead, it's your attempt at back pedaling. Your first statement was that the Hulk was greater than all of the Heralds of the highest echelon, and then you proceeded to attempt to drag Thanos down to his level. Marvel has made it clear where they prefer to keep the Hulk. They even performed brain surgery on him so that he'd forget how to raise his might on a whim. Perhaps you should make an appointment yourself.

I told you what you did, and you still want to pretend that this was the basis of your argument. The Surfer has never defeated Thanos, and now that he has grown in power his chances of winning are even slimmer than they were when Thanos beat him to death.

Thanos is a telepath, he also has shields, and force cube tech. The tactic that you're attempting to pathetically validate is not the Surfer's go to move (do I have to repeat this until it sink into that skull crust?). Why are you stuck on stupid Carver? At this point, I can't wait until the other posters dig into your ass, I'll be silently cheering them on because you're the absolute most dishonest poster on this board.

WTF does HP Doomsday have to do with anything now? You have more Strawmen than a phucking farmer.

The scenario that I created? Surfer is Marvel's version of J'onn Jonnz as far a personality or character type goes. Thanos is a flipping murderer. Who do you think would shoot the silver bullet first? Are you going to pretend that the Surfer is faster than Thanos now? Thanos would and can keep pace with the Surfer. Did you see his fight against Thane? If so stop acting as if the Surfer has some sort of advantage here. Thanos has cosmic powers, telepathy, mysticism, and a bunch of powers that the Surfer does not have. He's actually one of the few characters that has the ability to outdo the Surfer in terms of versatility, and you're still talking about black holes to the brain.

Stop the bullshit you've already been caught. You're entire stance is due to the Hulk being a one trick pony when compared to other top tiers. If he ever fought Thanos, Thanos would have dozens of ways of beating him. But continue the charade pretending that you wanted to make some idiotic example of how your version of the Surfer would beat a guy that literally beat him to death, and clowned him in nearly every other conflict that they had.

You'd think that since you've failed to trick 14 yr old posters that you'd think things through, but no... you keep on going!!!

I think I'll begin quoting you every time I see you step on your dick and kick yourself in the nuts.

Sigh... I give up. I thought you were playing when I read your post and thought you didnt get it but you truly dont get it. I'm going to let you continue to think that Hulk would lose to anyone via speed and punch into space when they rarely if ever do this in comic while having Thanos win against Surfer because he has beat him up in a comic. Ya know, picking and choosing a style of debate to prove your point. Hyperion, Sentry and even Jack of Hearts has flown FTL...

And Hulk has done well against them. Hell, Jack of Hearts has even flown alongside Surfer and he still admits he has never encounter anything as fast as Hulk. I'm done talking to you about this because you're argument is unbalanced.

Originally posted by carver9
I will be posting scans proving Hulk>Thor (or any other High Herald tbh) and then I will continue my posting showing that a contained Hulk>a contained Thanos. I'm ok with Bran comments on Thanos>Gladiator but I think there is solid evidence proving Hulk is either equal to or greater than Thanos (not even World Breaker or WWH either). This is an interesting thread.

scans will be greatly appreciated

Let's start off with Thanos vs Hulk and why I think Hulk would crush Thanos wind pipe...

Thanos vs CM...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111184849/5172627-ec6338a49c4ad106825464953d65c06e.jpg
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As shown, CM was giving Thanos fits an entire page. Thanos finally ended it by punting him across space. Now let's see what happens when he face Hulk. Hulk tanks his punch and then knocks him out with a slap and the other scan shows Hulk knocking him out just by clamping his hands together...

Captain Marvel
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Savage Hulk vs Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell), from Captain Marvel #21:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsCaptainMarvel01CaptainMarvel21.jpg
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Savage Hulk vs Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) rematch, from Incredible Hulk #245-46:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsCaptainMarvel06245.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsCaptainMarvel07246.jpg
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Bran posted scans of Hulk fighting Gladiator not mentioning Hulk was dying during the time and his durability and healing factor was crap during the time and Hulk manage to still beat him. Now let's see what a fresh Hulk would look like against Gladiator...

This isn't even Hulk at his prime. Let's move on.

Thanos hits AnniHulk with a FULL POWERED blast and it did nothing. He even admits this (while scratching a whole in him)...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111229114/5057948-thanos+-+the+infinity+relativity-075.jpg
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He then release his full might on Annihulk and no damage done...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111229114/5057952-thanos+-+the+infinity+relativity-079.jpg

It took him powering up and a prolong beating for him to finally damage him.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111229114/5057954-thanos+-+the+infinity+relativity-081.jpg
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Hulk did it in two punches...

Second punch...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/22734466/Thanos_vs._Hulk_004-012.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/22734467/Thanos_vs._Hulk_004-013.jpg.html

Not done.

Dawg...

But I appreciate you getting back into the spirit of the thread so I won't say anything. 👆

I need to fire up my comp and try finish my Havok/Cyke one without reading entire arcs.

STOP STEALING MY STYLE, GAMMITE!!!

Then we have Cap thinking that Hulk could take on Thanos and the crew on his own. He sends him there to fight them and Thanos didnt even engage, they had to use plot to take the Hulk out...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38787811/fdn8p6m_d.jpg.html

Let's not even discuss Thanos and the Avengers. This is who they sent to fight Thanos...

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/civil-war-ii-fcbd-2016-greenmangroup-dcp-009.jpg

And he lost. This is who the same leader sent to fight the Hulk (who wasnt even transformed.

They sent everybody. The point I am trying to make here is, Hulk is more or a threat. Let's continue.

Bran then posted a scan of Thanos eye blasting Hulk. That was cute and all but Hulk was literally up in the next panel.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11128/111284868/6195462-hulk+2.jpg

The blast did nothing. If getting the first hit off of Hulk is what we are looking for then Spiderman pulls a majority. Annihilus needed a power up because he wanted to achieve domination so he snatched up the Hulk. With that portion of power he took from Hulk, it made him Thanos equal...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111229114/5057953-thanos+-+the+infinity+relativity-080.jpg

Yes, Hulk power made Annihilus Thanos equal. This could be debated on due to the cosmic rod but there is no debate on Hulk power amping him to Thanos levels.

Bran is going to think that I am lowballing with these scans but i am not trying too. Thanos vs the Avengers. A lot of these people wouldnt be relevant to the Hulk as shown per previous fights and per the fight that i am about to post. He takes a beating ending with Captain Marvel dropping him.

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/civil-war-ii-fcbd-2016-greenmangroup-dcp-014.jpg

The only person that truly hits him is Warmachine, Photon and Captain Marvel...

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/civil-war-ii-fcbd-2016-greenmangroup-dcp-009.jpg
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Two of those people are fodder to Hulk. He literally laughs at their attacks (and there were a gang of war machines...

You could've thrown in a couple of high Heralds and the results wouldve been the same...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38087716/Avengers_2016-_686-012.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38087718/Avengers_2016-_686-013.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38087720/Avengers_2016-_686-015.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38087721/Avengers_2016-_686-016.jpg.html

Team environments and some single fights, Hulk is just more formidable. I'll post more examples tomorrow. It's late here.

😂

Good stuff Carv. 👆

As usual carver simply gets everything wrong or lies on purpose.

Captain marvel fought the weakest version of Thanos which was before his up grade by death.

The AnniHulk Thanos fought was more powerful considerably than the one Hulk battled. It’s explained clear as day in the story his power had increased over time.

This is as good place as any so what the heck. Darkseid-Highfather/Odin comparison.

First lets see their raw power. Odin destroys planets against Infinity (Which was later retconned as being amped by abstract Infinity).

http://i.imgur.com/Kvbzazb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a3iJIIx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2EDgbgm.jpg

Only planets being destroyed is confirmed in Marvel Index.

https://s6.postimg.cc/r02w3u641/aven64.jpg

Darkseid and Highfather destroy the source wall which encircles the whole universe and is nigh impenetrable.

https://s6.postimg.cc/dxj7kaoa9/New_Gods10-20.jpg

Odin once again shows galactic level power against Foresung.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111200398/4697071-6306165603-Odinv.jpg

Darkseid and Highfather each provide 1/5th power to destroy an entire universe.

http://imgur.com/a/YWQtD

Odin shows galactic power against Seth and banishes him to his realm as he couldn't kill him.

https://s15.postimg.cc/py1vikybv/Journey_Into_Mystery_513-016.jpg
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Scott Free with a portion of Highfather's alpha powers banishes Black Racer (an abstract version of Death) to his realm. He tries to attack Highfather in the very next page who casually blocks his attacks.

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Odin died powering a planet for a few weeks.

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While Darkseid just reanimating a statue for a second spends more power than Apokolips spends in an entire year.

https://s6.postimg.cc/5upmmpt2p/Darkseid-19.jpg