Carver Talks: Comparisons

Started by abhilegend12 pages

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ROFL hell no. Darkseid is far superior to Superman, that's canon fact.

Just recently superman only caused city shaking shockwave against a terrax rip off.

Make up your mind. Either Darkseid struggle with Superman or he is far superior.

yes his avatars struggle with superman which are usually the ones superman fights

Originally posted by carver9
Far beyond? I doubt that. People that gave Hulk fits in the past are nuisance now. Thing was never on Hulk level and when did Thanos take down Thing. Thanos himself (whom intellect is one of Marvels best) mentioned Champion with the Gem being on Hulks level and he shielded from him the entire match. So I doubt Hulk was thing level and Thanos thought of Hulk as so much more. Annihihulk did as well which is the reason he jacked his power.

Anni adapted more to his powers, he didnt become more powerful. There's a difference. It doesnt even matter anyways since Anni had Hulk powers and having Hulk powers mean you can become more powerful. That was the reason he jacked him anyways. He knew having Hulks abilities wouldnt make his power static.

At the end of the day, both Thanos and Hulk are FAR above where they use to be and Hulk has been shown to be more or a threat on a couple of occasions. Especially recently.

why doubt it, it’s stated in the comic his power was greatly argumented. Both Thing and Thor st that time always gave Hulk a fight. He swatted Thor,Thing,Vision,Beast and Iron Man aside like fly’s in his weakest state. He also koed Thing several times during the early Adam warlock /marvel 2 in 1 #2 comics. Why do you lie about everything? Thanos makes the comment about champion strength increasing with his rage like Hulks does. That’s comparing how powers work not the power levels.

Another lie, it’s stated on panel his power increased. It does matter as he added Hulks power to his own with the control rod . Plus he was well above Hulk.

Every instance you can throw up about recent showings can be debunked.

Thanos recently punch the Phoenix force Thane through a planet , and Thane at that point was powerful enough to undo minstress deaths curse on Thanos.

So we're pretending that Hulk doesn't have showings equal or superior to anything standard Thanos has done physically..? ok. 😂

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
yes his avatars struggle with superman which are usually the ones superman fights

Your fan fiction is irrelevant as usual.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
yes his avatars struggle with superman which are usually the ones superman fights

Where is that stated?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where is that stated?

where it was stated? Superman has never beaten the actual darkseid until final crisis retconned it was all of his aspects

Prove that Darkseid from Apokolips Now is ever stated to be an avatar. 😂

Originally posted by panthergod
Prove that Darkseid from Apokolips Now is ever stated to be an avatar. 😂

Apokolips Now was def the real darkseid hence why I said "UNTIL" final crisis retconned it to be an avatar lmao

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
where it was stated? Superman has never beaten the actual darkseid until final crisis retconned it was all of his aspects

Which arrive in the Third World. Apokolips Now happened on Apokolips.

No, Morrison confirmed it in general.

Darkseid said no one on Earth had ever seen his full presence. Who's on Earth? Superman.

Originally posted by panthergod
So we're pretending that Hulk doesn't have showings equal or superior to anything standard Thanos has done physically..? ok. 😂
Hulk isn’t portrayed as more formidable than Thanos. Thanos is the big bad hulk is the hero that needs a team to take him on.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
No, Morrison confirmed it in general.

Your fan fiction is irrelevant son.

Morrison establishing that Darkseid is a multi dimensional being is NOT exactly the same as the avatar concept established by Byrne.

Originally posted by panthergod
Your fan fiction is irrelevant son.

Morrison establishing that Darkseid is a multi dimensional being is NOT exactly the same as the avatar concept established by Byrne.

wrong.

Darkseid doesn't say they've only ever faced Avatars, he says they've only ever faced versions of him that weren't going all out. Ideas, not the real thing

http://i.imgur.com/IazJij4.jpg?1

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk isn’t portrayed as more formidable than Thanos. Thanos is the big bad hulk is the hero that needs a team to take him on.

So the answer is YES, you are pretending as if Hulk's relative power showings and power set are irrelevant for laughably dishonest bias. Got it.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
wrong.

Darkseid doesn't say they've only ever faced Avatars, he says they've only ever faced versions of him that weren't going all out. Ideas, not the real thing

http://i.imgur.com/IazJij4.jpg?1

lmao, what? Darkseid's consciousness was in Dan Turpin's body. And no, that's not what he said. The New Gods Are ALWAYS sentient ideas per Morrison.

Morrison specifically makes clear the difference between the mortal bodies they are inhabiting there and the 'Celestial forms' they traditionally manifest in.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
No, Morrison confirmed it in general.

Where?

Originally posted by panthergod
lmao, what? Darkseid's consciousness was in Dan Turpin's body. And no, that's not what he said. The New Gods Are ALWAYS sentient ideas per Morrison.

Morrison specifically makes clear the difference between the mortal bodies they are inhabiting there and the 'Celestial forms' they traditionally manifest in.

that's literally the same THING i said

true form darkseid appeared and not even superman, or the league could stop him so no Superman never defeated him ever. period.