Originally posted by Emperordmb
She came before Jacen did his thing. Jacen doing his shit isn't the only thing capable of releasing her. Something would've certainly happened at some point to bring her down upon the Galaxy.
I am aware of that. But, the question is, is Sidious's victory against the force's will in this alternate reality?
Originally posted by Sinious
Sidious could easily surpass her given enough time, which probably wouldn't be more than a couple centuries.
People, have limitations, except if they're the chosen one.
Yoda had a very long lifespan and was only able to keep up with RoTS Palpatine.
There are some people you just can't touch.
You think a few centuries is enough to put him above someone who could stomp an Amped Luke that had achieved Oneness, with the help of Darth Krayt? Darth Krayt also being one of the most powerful beings in the galaxy?
Originally posted by JmanghanThis is rather stupid. Every being has limits, unless they're truly omnipotent.
People, have limitations, except if they're the chosen one.
Yoda had a very long lifespan and was only able to keep up with RoTS Palpatine.Did Yoda ever try to achieve more power than his natural growth like Palpatine? If not, this comparison is pointless.
There are some people you just can't touch. You think a few centuries is enough to put him above someone who could stomp an Amped Luke that had achieved Oneness, with the help of Darth Krayt? Darth Krayt also being one of the most powerful beings in the galaxy?If Abeloth is truly untouchable, how did they stop her? If you mean she is vastly above them, but not actually untouchable, then yes, it is possible for Palpatine to reach that power given enough time.
Originally posted by RockydonovangLMFAO. What does mortal mean? If you use the word loosely, then Palpatine is immortal as well. If not, then the Ones aren't even immortal themselves. Don't forget the Father grew too old in time and was dying.
A mortal having the capacity to surpass an embodiment of the force would be the dumbest thing since...Dark Empire 2.
What does embodiment of the Force mean? If you take that literally, why not take similar quotes about Palpatine literally? Also, if you're actually suggesting that they represent the full power of an alignment (which means a quarter of the power Force itself has?), then how did the likes of Luke and Krayt perform as well as they did against Abeloth? If you're not taking it so literally, then just how much power does being an embodiment of the Force translate to?
The dumbest thing here would be the idea of Luke being like %10 of a literally universal being.
Originally posted by Sinious
This is rather stupid. Every being has limits, unless they're truly omnipotent. Did Yoda ever try to achieve more power than his natural growth like Palpatine? If not, this comparison is pointless. If Abeloth is truly untouchable, how did they stop her? If you mean she is vastly above them, but not actually untouchable, then yes, it is possible for Palpatine to reach that power given enough time. LMFAO. What does mortal mean? If you use the word loosely, then Palpatine is immortal as well. If not, then the Ones aren't even immortal themselves. Don't forget the Father grew too old in time and was dying.What does embodiment of the Force mean? If you take that literally, why not take similar quotes about Palpatine literally? Also, if you're actually suggesting that they represent the full power of an alignment (which means a quarter of the power Force itself has?), then how did the likes of Luke and Krayt perform as well as they did against Abeloth? If you're not taking it so literally, then just how much power does being an embodiment of the Force translate to?
The dumbest thing here would be the idea of Luke being like %10 of a literally universal being.
We're saying that it's impossible, even if given 10,000 years, for Palpatine to surpass Abeloth, his limits are below her power.
I'd even doubt Palpatine can surpass Oneness Luke, tbh, who Abeloth is much more powerful then.
If Luke was alone he would have gotten absolutely destroyed, it would have been a complete Massacre, Krayt managed to have powers that significantly contributed to the fight, if not more then Luke did, and thats the only reason they "stopped her", had Krayt just been some powerhouse Jedi, they would have been destroyed.
Hell, I doubt even 2 Oneness Lukes could defeat her, just because they don't have the right powerset to deal with her.
Originally posted by JmanghanBased on what? Palpatine was planning on draining every living thing in the galaxy, and then do the same to other galaxies until there is nothing left. Read The Apotheosis of Palpatine and properly understand what a couple centuries with Palpatine means for the galaxy. 👆
We're saying that it's impossible, even if given 10,000 years, for Palpatine to surpass Abeloth, his limits are below her power.I'd even doubt Palpatine can surpass Oneness Luke, tbh, who Abeloth is much more powerful then.
The idea of Palpatine spending centuries draining every living being his empire encounters and not surpassing Oneness Luke is beyond ludicrous.
If Luke was alone he would have gotten absolutely destroyed, it would have been a complete Massacre, Krayt managed to have powers that significantly contributed to the fight, if not more then Luke did, and thats the only reason they "stopped her", had Krayt just been some powerhouse Jedi, they would have been destroyed. Hell, I doubt even 2 Oneness Lukes could defeat her, just because they don't have the right powerset to deal with her.So, Palpatine spending centuries to gain more and more power doesn't even add up to Krayt's abilities? 😂
The fact that they could touch her means that she isn't some galaxy buster. She is still relatively close enough to be surpassed given enough time, which is a lot shorter for Palpatine.