Sentry VS Worthy King Thor

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No one is advocating homicide lol!!!!

Where are you getting this from? It's like your imagination, when given the ability to make anything you wish come true, is limited to 'kill', lol.

So we have one showing of a fully competent Sentry, with the Death Seed...And he is still using physical attacks. Yet in a forum, he's busting it out at the start of the bell.

The plan of the Avengers was to stop Exitar by killing him. That's pretty much the plot to stop him destroying the earth.

Originally posted by Faceless808
^^ Yes, that's what I mean about the posts on KMC makes it seem like it is Sentry's main ability.

That's because it's his main ability.

His super-powers, his prowess, comes from the fact that he can manipulate the reality at will.

He is still not trained at conciously using that ability that much.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Glass house and shit? You might want to look into John Carter and Hugo Danner.

I'll take that mishmash character over the personification of boredom that is Superman any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Superman has been around for more than 70 years and still, the only reason anyone likes him is because of Christopher Reeves. LUL!

Maybe, maybe not. But Superman has Christopher Reeve. What does Sentry has? RealityWarper?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where has anyone denied about John Carter or Gladiator influence on Superman? Superman is hardly a clone of them though. He is a modern Hercules, Samson and Apollo the sun god combined.

Superman couldn't even fly in his first appearances...

Maybe, maybe not. But Superman has Christopher Reeve. What does Sentry has? RealityWarper?

You showed, once more, your inability to make logical links.

I'm not Sentry's writer.

I'm not Sentry's future actor neither.

Either ways you can be sure that, as the Marvel Universe grows in popularity, Sentry will completely overshadow Superman.

He is a way better concept than a predictable farmboy, invested with a so classical power-set that he isn't even fun to read anymore. 👆

Originally posted by RealityWarper
The plan of the Avengers was to stop Exitar by killing him. That's pretty much the plot to stop him destroying the earth.

That's because it's his main ability.

His super-powers, his prowess, comes from the fact that he can manipulate the reality at will.

He is still not trained at conciously using that ability that much.

But....did you read the story?

Sentry didn't punch Exitar to death. He BFRd him.

Physically.

When he could've BFRd him.

By warping reality.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But....did you read the story?

Sentry didn't punch Exitar to death. He BFRd him.

Physically.

When he could've BFRd him.

By warping reality.

He moved Exitar's DEAD BODY.

He didn't attack Exitar.

Thor did it with Jarnbjorn.

Did you read the story ?

Originally posted by RealityWarper
He moved Exitar's DEAD BODY.

He didn't attack Exitar.

Thor did it with Jarnbjorn.

Did you read the story ?

With physical means.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

With physical means.

He BFRed the Molecule Man.

The Exitar instance was different. There Sentry said he would take a great journey. The next time we saw him Doctor Strange said Sentry was looking for a way to die. So Sentry left together with Exitars body.

Your question should have been why Sentry didn't teleport away together with Exitar. And the answer there would be, that he is either fast enough to a point where it almost makes no difference what he does - or that the writer couldn't let him teleport away, because that would have raised the question why he didn't teleport out of the space worm.

But none of that answers the question why Sentry doesn't just hover around 24/7 and reality warps the crap out of everything.

That's exactly my point! Albeit you put it more clearly than I could, lol.

Writers have given Sentry so a many different powers that I believe they have a hard time writing him. A lot dont know what to do with him. Creatively writing him out of stories or writing around him is a chore. He's been bluffed out by Hammond Torch and ran away, he's just flat out run away for fear of his powers on more than one occasion actually, he's been shown to tussle with Namor and ended up missing for panels afterwards (what the hell happened to him? Did Namor BFR him, KO him, etc,,,) when in another book, Namor was powerless to even land one hit on him, Vision psyches him out and Bob runs away again, worm eats him and BFR's him for an extended period of time, etc,,,,. None of those makes any sense. The only time I thought Bob was creatively written out of a story was when he was destroying Iron Man and Tony messed with Cloc. I guess what i'm trying to say is that a lot of Sentry stuff doesnt make sense because of all the different powers he has at his disposal.

But you've witnessed in plain sight that Hulk overpowers him with Sentry putting in effort enough to be completely spent going further than ever before. No bfr, running away, mind manipulation, etc. That was "terrax sentry", however he was just simply fighting someone stronger than Terrax by several magnitudes

Originally posted by psycho gundam
But you've witnessed in plain sight that Hulk overpowers him with Sentry putting in effort enough to be completely spent going further than ever before. No bfr, running away, mind manipulation, etc. That was "terrax sentry", however he was just simply fighting someone stronger than Terrax by several magnitudes

And he was weakened / depowered by several magnitudes.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
But you've witnessed in plain sight that Hulk overpowers him with Sentry putting in effort enough to be completely spent going further than ever before. No bfr, running away, mind manipulation, etc. That was "terrax sentry", however he was just simply fighting someone stronger than Terrax by several magnitudes

What I saw was a Sentry that exhausted himself after releasing every bit of energy that he had on a target that could take it. I'm not sure why your so hung up on belittling the Sentry when it was clear he wasnt fighting at the best of his abilities. Hell, he didnt even Void out. It was a low showing for him.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

But you've witnessed in plain sight that Hulk overpowers him with Sentry putting in effort enough to be completely spent going further than ever before.

You ignore context. Sentrys power depends on his mental stability. If he is unstable, he has less power and is easier to defeat. In WW Hulk Sentry was struggling with his agoraphobia like crazy. He was trapped inside his house for days due to his anxiety. He left, when he had absolutely no other choice left. And then he fought Hulk, unleashed everything he had... and that everything he had at that point was clearly not his absolute best. We have seen Sentry more stable dramatically outperforming his WW Hulk performance.

Did you ever have the flu and tried working out? Your body is exhausted at that point and you're going to underperform, even if you try as hard as you can. That was the Sentry in WW Hulk.
Or another example: Imagine Superman giving it his very all, while wearing a kryptonite necklace. Superman can put in all the effort in the world, but he is still going to underperform, because he will be weakened. Sentry was weakened as well.

Then you have the people, who point out that Reed Richards said Sentry had never used that much energy before. Well, Reed Richards was kinda not around the Sentry, when Sentry fought Collective in space. Reed Richards was also kinda not around the Sentry, when Sentry fought Photon in the Microverse. Reed Richards was also not around, when Sentry fought the Void in Antarctica. Reed Richards was also not around, when Sentry fought the Void in the alternate reality in his mind. All showings, where Sentry had access to more of his own power and used that power.

Then there was also Death Seed Sentry, who really didn't seem to struggle with any anxiety. He was performing at his absolute best at that point. And at that point, Sentry mirrored the combined strength of over a 100 heroes. Including Hulk, Blue Marvel, Hyperion and many others.

So what imaginary power level do you see Sentry at?
It feels like if he is not performing at his maximum, you will always try to dismiss the feats. At some point, you're going to have to admit that Sentry operates at that level because of who he is. The same way we can't go into Flash V.S. threads spewing how he can speed steal or destroy the very universe itself.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So what imaginary power level do you see Sentry at?
It feels like if he is not performing at his maximum, you will always try to dismiss the feats. At some point, you're going to have to admit that Sentry operates at that level because of who he is. The same way we can't go into Flash V.S. threads spewing how he can speed steal or destroy the very universe itself.

Not sure what power levels he's at, but it sure as hell isnt the WWH showing when we have seen much, much better from the character.

Sentry releases all of his energy towards WWH and manages the destroy a city block.
Sentry release partial amounts of energy against Photon and destroys planets.

Do you really have a hard time understanding that environmental destruction on earth might not be indicative of a character's strength?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Do you really have a hard time understanding that environmental destruction on earth might not be indicative of a character's strength?

Sure, bro.

When Batman destroy a tree that means he can destroy the Universe if he puts more power in his Bat-kick. 😆

Ps: I am being sarcastic, I precise for people whom will not understand it.

Originally posted by tkitna
Not sure what power levels he's at, but it sure as hell isnt the WWH showing when we have seen much, much better from the character.

Sentry releases all of his energy towards WWH and manages the destroy a city block.
Sentry release partial amounts of energy against Photon and destroys planets.

We might as well now start arguing that Flash was never going top speed because we clearly see what happens when he does (Flash 50). He literally is destroying the multiverse just by running at max speed

Originally posted by xJLxKing

So what imaginary power level do you see Sentry at?
It feels like if he is not performing at his maximum, you will always try to dismiss the feats. At some point, you're going to have to admit that Sentry operates at that level because of who he is. The same way we can't go into Flash V.S. threads spewing how he can speed steal or destroy the very universe itself.

Death Seed Sentry was the Sentry at his best. Sentry at his best is powerful enough to beat Thor simply by flying with him in a straight line. He is powerful enough to oneshot him without even trying. He is powerful enough to mirror the combined power of a bunch of high heralds and then some. Sentry at his best would slap Thors, Hulks, Silver Surfers, Supermans, Wonder Womans and Black Adams heads off clean.

But that was Death Seed Sentry. An outside artifact which had to free the Sentry first and allow him to tap into his imaginary, yet very real power maximum. Death Seed Sentry is not the standard Sentry. Standard Sentry still deals with a ton of struggle, which holds him back greatly.

Standard Sentry at his best is still someone, who goes toe on toe with the Void. And the Void is someone, who rips gods in half, breaks all the bones in Hulks body, fights off two Sorcerer Supreme, while laughing at them. I think that was an insane showing for the Sentry. You had the Void trashing Sorcerer Supreme Loki and God of Magic Strange. They couldn't do anything to him. And then Sentry arrived and broke Voids jaw with a punch. And then shot energy beams through his head. And that's what gave Loki and Strange a fighting chance.

In my opinion the average standard Sentry is above Thanos, when he is actually trying. Above Thanos, but below Odin. But he has always that weird x-factor on his side, because he is so mysterious.
I've argued in great depth and length that Molecule Man was weakened during his fight against Sentry and not at his old best. BUT... That Molecule Man had still experienced all the molecules in the multiverse and he still didn't know what the Sentry was made of. Sentry is something new and unique. Special even. If he snapped and destroyed the universe, I wouldn't be surprised and call it PIS.

But that's just my take on it.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Do you really have a hard time understanding that environmental destruction on earth might not be indicative of a character's strength?

I absolutely understand that, but when the difference is so great. as in this case, it needs to be brought up.