Originally posted by xJLxKing
As people have already said numerous of times, we can't always use environment destruction to try and guage how strong someone is.
Understood but a city block compared to planets is pretty much ridiculous and people still want to argue that the Sentry was at his best against WWH.
Originally posted by tkitna
Understood but a city block compared to planets is pretty much ridiculous and people still want to argue that the Sentry was at his best against WWH.
Do you think we will have another issue of Flash running to the point that the multiverse is collapsing?
Without doubt, it wont happen for a long time. And just because we wont see it again doesn't mean that they wont be running max speed ever again.
Originally posted by EnzeruThis has nothing to do with Reed, it has everything to do with Sentry being drained after knowing full well how much energy he would have to expend to beat someone that was also very powerful.
You ignore context. Sentrys power depends on his mental stability. If he is unstable, he has less power and is easier to defeat. In WW Hulk Sentry was struggling with his agoraphobia like crazy. He was trapped inside his house for days due to his anxiety. He left, when he had absolutely no other choice left. And then he fought Hulk, unleashed everything he had... and that everything he had at that point was clearly not his absolute best. We have seen Sentry more stable dramatically outperforming his WW Hulk performance.Did you ever have the flu and tried working out? Your body is exhausted at that point and you're going to underperform, even if you try as hard as you can. That was the Sentry in WW Hulk.
Or another example: Imagine Superman giving it his very all, while wearing a kryptonite necklace. Superman can put in all the effort in the world, but he is still going to underperform, because he will be weakened. Sentry was weakened as well.Then you have the people, who point out that Reed Richards said Sentry had never used that much energy before. Well, Reed Richards was kinda not around the Sentry, when Sentry fought Collective in space. Reed Richards was also kinda not around the Sentry, when Sentry fought Photon in the Microverse. Reed Richards was also not around, when Sentry fought the Void in Antarctica. Reed Richards was also not around, when Sentry fought the Void in the alternate reality in his mind. All showings, where Sentry had access to more of his own power and used that power.
Then there was also Death Seed Sentry, who really didn't seem to struggle with any anxiety. He was performing at his absolute best at that point. And at that point, Sentry mirrored the combined strength of over a 100 heroes. Including Hulk, Blue Marvel, Hyperion and many others.
Originally posted by tkitna
Understood but a city block compared to planets is pretty much ridiculous and people still want to argue that the Sentry was at his best against WWH.
It's absolutely irrelevant 😂
Are people older than 14 seriously comparing COLLATERAL DAMAGE/AREA OF EFFECT to compare showings from different writers/editors..?
Seriously?
Originally posted by psycho gundamSomehow he is still holding back...
Talks about not wanting to release his powerReleases said power
https://imgur.com/M7kJ6nw
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Originally posted by psycho gundamSomehow he is still holding back...
You're legit not reading what people write.
No one is saying that Sentry held back. He went all out.
The point is, that he was weakened due to his mental struggle and therefore had less power at his disposal. I fittingly compared it to Superman going all out, while wearing a Kryptonite necklace. Or anyone performing a demanding physical activity, while having the flu.
Originally posted by panthergodIt's absolutely irrelevant 😂
Are people older than 14 seriously comparing COLLATERAL DAMAGE/AREA OF EFFECT to compare showings from different writers/editors..?
Seriously?
Your toxic bias hurts my eyes.
Sentry has destroyed a moon as the side effect of one of his fights. Sentry has destroyed planets, while holding back. Sentrys punch was felt all over an alien planet with 19 billion sentient creatures. Sentry has destroyed a moon by punching it. (Oh btw, how is Supermans track record against moons?) Sentry has casually outperformed planet busters.
All these showings are from many different comics. You and few others however treat the WW Hulk event as if its the only existing Marvel comic. Unfortunately for you, that's not the case. WWH Sentry was at his weakest. At no other point was the Sentry more crippled with fear and less capable of controling his power than during that event. And Sentry wasn't the only character in that event, who was massively gimped and hindered, so that the Hulk could win.
Sentry > any version of the Hulk. Why is this even a discussion :-/
Originally posted by EnzeruNo one is saying that Sentry held back.
Originally posted by tkitna
WWH was a low showing. He wasn't trying to win that fight.
The point is, that he was weakened due to his mental struggle and therefore had less power at his disposal.
"He's never unleashed it like this before..."
The intent frankly seems pretty obvious. Sentry was letting go and releasing his full power.
I mean, if it was a low showing fine. Characters have low showings. We're talking about a medium where Flash has run into Deathstroke's sword despite his super speed.
I just don't see where these attempts at rationalizing what you perceive to be a relatively low showing are coming from.
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Also this...
https://i.imgur.com/qNNMPIW.jpg
Sentry: "You have to tell me something. Does it always feel this good... When you finally let go?"
I'd say Pak's intent was clearly for Sentry to be fully cutting loose against Hulk. As for the lack of high-end collateral damage during their battle: it's irrelevant.
Molecule Man once struck Beyonder with a blast that could have destroyed "several BILLION entire dimensionS", yet it failed to cause any damage whatsoever to Owen's studio apartment, lol:
https://i.imgur.com/UgyE3EW.jpg
Visuals and whatnot are going to vary from writer-to-writer and from story-to-story. The narrative/dialogue/intent is what's important here.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I just don't see where these attempts at rationalizing what you perceive to be a relatively low showing are coming from.
Because of the numerous higher showings he has had. A better question is, do people actually think the WWH encounter was the best that the Sentry has to offer or has ever done?
Originally posted by tkitnaSome would probably like to insinuate as much, but no, not really. Only pedophiles with erectile dysfunction like RealityWarper home in on the lowest showings of a character as their standard.
Because of the numerous higher showings he has had. A better question is, do people actually think the WWH encounter was the best that the Sentry has to offer or has ever done?
Originally posted by Galan007How is the comic true and this:
👆Also this...
https://i.imgur.com/qNNMPIW.jpg
Sentry: "You have to tell me something. Does it always feel this good... When you finally let go?"I'd say Pak's intent was clearly for Sentry to be fully cutting loose against Hulk. As for the lack of high-end collateral damage during their battle: it's irrelevant.
Molecule Man once struck Beyonder with a blast that could have destroyed "several BILLION entire dimensionS", yet it failed to cause any damage whatsoever to Owen's studio apartment, lol:
https://i.imgur.com/UgyE3EW.jpgVisuals and whatnot are going to vary from writer-to-writer and from story-to-story. The narrative/dialogue/intent is what's important here.
Originally posted by Enzerutrue at the same time?
Sentry > any version of the Hulk. Why is this even a discussion :-/
Hint: just don't use the comic
Originally posted by tkitna
Understood but a city block compared to planets is pretty much ridiculous and people still want to argue that the Sentry was at his best against WWH.
Thanos with the IG could fight Owen on Earth ending with Thanos getting ripped to shreds and Earth would still be intact. Hell, the city or area they are fighting in would probably be in perfect condition. Its Earth and it is a rare occasion a writer would have it exploding in an epic battle. Superboy prime fought an Ion amped Daxamite on earth and the maximum destruction they were able to produce was at max, a cemetary and we know for a fact Prime js at the minimum, planetary. Collateral damage doesnt mean a thing in comics. It's nice to look at but it means little. WWH and Ironman fight split New York clean in half.. are you implying Hulk used more power against Ironman than what he did against Sentry?
