Originally posted by carver9Calling him out. He’s pretty easy to spot and his double standards are known throughout every board he’s ever posted. He has the credibility of trump.
He did?Space cheese is irrelevant huh? So why did you post Superman surviving 2 planets colliding and posted Galactus being badly hurt by two planets colliding as a way to downplay the character? These are space cheese fts, right? Why even use the energy to post those scans if it didnt matter to you?
I just wanted to chime and say there is no such thing as 'space cheese'. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
Feats are feats. And it just happens that the feats in space tend to be a character's best, and you are somehow arguing to throw those out when you use that stupid term.
When you compare characters cross company you have to use FEATS. That's the only objective way to debate. You can't do some weird tier comparison breakdown to determine who wins because the tiers won't necessarily mean the same thing across different companies.
That would be arguing from a feelings based perspective. If you watch anime that would be like saying Naruto and Ichigo would be a 50/50 fight because of 'how they compare in their respective tier lists', they are completely different characters across completely different universes, just because it 'feels' like it would be a close fight because they occupy similar niches in their respective universes doesn't mean it would be.
Originally posted by cdtm
Just for the record, the planets were New Genesis and Apokolips.New Gods are giant sized, and the planets are equally much larger then anything in the mainstream universe.
If earth was "boombtubed" (entirely) to the 4th worth, it would be similar size to Apokolips... right?
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Isn't that because they techincaly on the 4th world?If earth was "boombtubed" (entirely) to the 4th worth, it would be similar size to Apokolips... right?
Yep. That's why Lex Luthor is just as big as Darkseid on Apokolips.
I forget if Superman traveled via Boom Toob in DOTNG. I think Infinity Man whisked him there, or something.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
I just wanted to chime and say there is no such thing as 'space cheese'. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.Feats are feats. And it just happens that the feats in space tend to be a character's best, and you are somehow arguing to throw those out when you use that stupid term.
When you compare characters cross company you have to use FEATS. That's the only objective way to debate. You can't do some weird tier comparison breakdown to determine who wins because the tiers won't necessarily mean the same thing across different companies.
That would be arguing from a feelings based perspective. If you watch anime that would be like saying Naruto and Ichigo would be a 50/50 fight because of 'how they compare in their respective tier lists', they are completely different characters across completely different universes, just because it 'feels' like it would be a close fight because they occupy similar niches in their respective universes doesn't mean it would be.
Maybe we can refer to sub-space feats as earth-corn.
Originally posted by CosmicCometI'm inclined to agree tbh.
I just wanted to chime and say there is no such thing as 'space cheese'. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.Feats are feats. And it just happens that the feats in space tend to be a character's best, and you are somehow arguing to throw those out when you use that stupid term.
When you compare characters cross company you have to use FEATS. That's the only objective way to debate. You can't do some weird tier comparison breakdown to determine who wins because the tiers won't necessarily mean the same thing across different companies.
That would be arguing from a feelings based perspective. If you watch anime that would be like saying Naruto and Ichigo would be a 50/50 fight because of 'how they compare in their respective tier lists', they are completely different characters across completely different universes, just because it 'feels' like it would be a close fight because they occupy similar niches in their respective universes doesn't mean it would be.
Powerscaling is nice if you're just debating inside one setting, but when debating cross-company powerscaling has to take into account the "space cheese". I have no idea how one could argue otherwise tbh.
HP Doomsday beating the shit out of Superman who is top tier in DC is a solid foundation to build your argument around if you're arguing him against another DC character, but the feats of Doomsday and even Superman gain relevance when pit against a Marvel one.
Originally posted by carver9
He did?Space cheese is irrelevant huh? So why did you post Superman surviving 2 planets colliding and posted Galactus being badly hurt by two planets colliding as a way to downplay the character? These are space cheese fts, right? Why even use the energy to post those scans if it didnt matter to you?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because it was required at the time with Surfer fanboys.I don't put much stock in spaces cheese.
Because you'd lose.
Requirement of the moment.
LMAO. You can try and fool Carver but we’re not idiots.
“Space Cheese doesn’t matter. Except for when I need to use them.”
Bingo Carver. Hypocritical AF. There is at least like 4 instances I’ve seen Abhi toss out Superman doing some space cheese shit with his little brown wiener ready for a shag unprovoked. Smh.
Like it’s a normal convo and BOOM “Space Cheese.”
I get it though. If a character he prefers doesn’t have similar feats: space cheese
If Superman does it etc: Hard science.
You better believe by the Gamma Gods if Surfer was out here towing planets while Superman was soaking in planet destroying attacks like it was a rim job from Lois, we’d be getting shit like this:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t571524.html
Who among these heralds can bench press a weight equal to earth for 5 days straight while losing energy constantly? They can amp their strength but ONLY what its shown to be in their actual feats. Let's go.
Wana know the best part? I had no idea he made that thread. I literally googled his user name, Superman bench press and kmc. There was ZERO doubt in my mind that his dumbass made at least one thread about that showing because I saw him mention it so many times.
“I don’t put much stock in space cheese”
Lmao bro. Why you gotta waste everyone’s time with these bullshit attempts?
Originally posted by CosmicComet
I just wanted to chime and say there is no such thing as 'space cheese'. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.Feats are feats. And it just happens that the feats in space tend to be a character's best, and you are somehow arguing to throw those out when you use that stupid term.
When you compare characters cross company you have to use FEATS. That's the only objective way to debate. You can't do some weird tier comparison breakdown to determine who wins because the tiers won't necessarily mean the same thing across different companies.
That would be arguing from a feelings based perspective. If you watch anime that would be like saying Naruto and Ichigo would be a 50/50 fight because of 'how they compare in their respective tier lists', they are completely different characters across completely different universes, just because it 'feels' like it would be a close fight because they occupy similar niches in their respective universes doesn't mean it would be.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Bryne also made the comparison Galactus >>>>> Darkseid/Apokolips. It is what it is. That was posted mostly tongue-in-cheek, but your flip-flopping from past threads is always obvious.
How is that relevant here?
Right, you just posted it because it was funny.
Ravenous with his Curr was rampaging through multiple beings, including previous Heralds. Surfer owned Ravenous with his Curr aka Ravenous at full power.
He didn't. He had to kill the currs first to beat Ravenous.
Like I said even Ronan did better than Surfer.
And Ravenous wasn't even koed by Surfer's blast.
You read that fight...and DISAGREE that Surfer came off as significantly more powerful than Nova Prime?
Yes, he was given verbal blowjob but Rich outsped him and matched him in strength.
If not, what is the point of this contention. I posted that because Surfer came off as significantly more powerful and dominant AF. If you disagree, that's fine. More reason for other posters to laugh at you.
Could you tell us where Surfer came off as dominant?
I literally said it was [b]anomalous. I'm highballing Surfer and dissing Thor. SMH.
No, you're just saying Thor is anomaly compared to the others and can't be taken as an example.
LEARN TO USE A DICTIONARY.
Even when I'm favoring Thor's top competition in Marvel, I'm highballing him... [/B]
Yes, you are.
Originally posted by xJLxKingEven fused together they are still nowhere near the size of the Godworld.
I remember reading that New Gensesis and Apokilips were created from one super massive planet that was almost as big as a universe...
New Genesis and Apokolips are super massive to an unboomtubed being. Even in the story where New Genesis was said to be infinitely bigger than Earth, Darkseid was going to replace Earth with Apokolips in the same space. Plus the whole OWAW instance.
The planets seem to range from Earth sized to moon sized when in an actual comparison. Normal size should be like multiversal in size though compared to unboom tubed universes.
