Originally posted by zopzop
In TP : Maxima. Even if you believe Rachael is the better telepath (lol),
For even further reference,
The Cuckoos + Emma were about to take Legion out before Emma got sucker punched by Ruth.
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And, while this feat may not be allowed under standard rules, Emma does kill Legion all on her own in a possible future. Marvel, at the least, seems to think she's capable of it, even if we can't use the feat.
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Future Young Jean slapped them all + Young Jean. Xavier Jr slapped Future Young Jean. Rachel slapped Xavier Jr.
Rachel's telepathy showing here is downright bonkers if we take it at face value. It's several slaps above the original slap dude.
Originally posted by Galan007
Question, because I know very little about Rachel-Which of her abilities would you guys say are actually better than Maxima's?
It might be better if she wasn't on the average X-Roster, to make things easier on the writers. Or the writers could just be better writers.
That said, I do think if Maxima created the black hole, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. People would automatically give the TK nod to Max.
Regardless, not even saying Rachel wins. Any way you slice it, Maxima still has massive physical stats backing her up. I understand the intent behind these Maxima vs Psychic threads, but Maxima has so much more in her corner than just TK/TP. It's difficult to argue for the psychic specialist against her.
Originally posted by Philosophía
I haven't followed the discussion, only in parts, so I don't know if this is relevant, but...If I recall, Future Jean explicitly states that time travel affects telepathy, no?
Wonder Man has covered every relevant question anyone could have though.
Originally posted by Wonder Man
I don't know anything about Maxima but Rachel saved every physical light in existance.
She saved all of them. Whenever Maxima flips a light switch, she'd best give thanks.
Found the scan, at last...
Originally posted by abhilegendIt's a great feat of psionic endurance, but in terms of raw TK strength, I still think Maxima pulling together continent-sized fissures while vastly weakened is a bit more quantifiable in a versus/battle setting. /shrug
Best TK feat for Maxima is creating a psionic highway for most of her planet's people across her galaxy to earth.It's notable because her galaxy is 100 trillion lightyears away from Earth.
Regardless, I've always found the psionic highway feat a bit odd, due to its absurd implications. After all, the speed at which Maxima and her people crossed that distance implies either:
a.) Their walking speed is many, many, many orders of magnitude beyond c.
OR
b.) That Maxima is capable of projecting said highway through space at many, many, many orders of magnitude beyond c.
Obviously the latter would be a bit more 'logical', but it still comes from out of nowhere given that most other times Maxima ventured to earth, she did so by way of spacecraft. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007
It's a great feat of psionic endurance, but in terms of raw TK strength, I still think Maxima pulling together continent-sized fissures while vastly weakened is a bit more quantifiable in a versus/battle setting. /shrug
Originally posted by zopzopIndeed, that feat is quite impressive. Among many things, it also depicts how fine-tuned/intricate Max's TK can be:
IMHO, Maxima creating an entire metal skyscraper is the more impressive feat. Not only did she assemble the thousands of tons of material to make the structure, she DESIGNED IT while assembling it. Instantly. That's power AND skill.
But imo, this is just a gargantuan showing of raw TK strength:
Originally posted by Galan007
Posted this in a different thread, but it is better-suited here...A weakened Maxima uses TK to close one of the massive fissures created by Starbreaker, which nearly destroyed Almerac:
*Confirmation that she closed/sealed the fissure alone:
http://i.imgur.com/3ZLItjd.jpgAnd as I said: Maxima was very weak at the time, as she had just been attacked by Starbreaker the issue prior:
http://i.imgur.com/jK4FQk5.jpgTo give you a sense of scale, here is how large the fissure(s) were:
Had she not been "exhausted" at the time, even a feat of that magnitude would have been child's play... Max was crazy-powerful. 🙂
Originally posted by Philosophía
Found the scan, at last...
While it doesn't change this thread any, it is pretty frightening to think Future Jean was even stronger than what we saw. And she was holding back for fear of what happens at the end.
