Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
We were talking about Ragnarok Thor Robtard.Wasn't the horde standing right infront of Thor? Also, isn't the bifrost bridge what? 3m wide? The horde was gathered in a linear formation, not scathered in a wide terrain.
That's the other thread, chief. This is Thor at full power in IF.
So you're now saying Thor's lighting has only a range of 3 meters or so? I must say, that's even more foolish than your previous "Thor will run out of lighting" angle.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
😂 FrothByte's point has been addressed.In other words, can't you bring actual arguments to fight mines? Or will you be just quoting Froth?
Cause if so, i won't be repeating myself.
Addressed where? I don't recall you addressing my points at all. In fact you contradicted yourself.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
😂 FrothByte's point has been addressed.In other words, can't you bring actual arguments to fight mines? Or will you be just quoting Froth?
Cause if so, i won't be repeating myself.
You may have addressed his post, but you never refuted his points. Therefore, they stand.
Originally posted by FrothByte
First of all:So yeah, was his suit damaged or not? You seem to be contradicting yourself.
As for Thor getting tired, you have no idea how long he can last before he can't spam lightning anymore. We've literally never seen Thor get so tired he can't fight properly other than in the beginning of IW... but then we don't know what happened to him there. He was still fighting Hela perfectly fine, and if he seemed a tad slower it's probably because he got impaled in the shoulder with a spear yes?
If he wasn't spamming as much lightning, it was because he was fighting a single opponent instead of multitudes. This is common sense.
In the end, the team's tactics for Thanos won't work on Thor because that relied on them holding him down and Mantis knocking him out... something which the team can't do while Thor is charged with lightning. So I'm still waiting for you to explain how exactly the team is taking out Thor.
Was tony harmed? No. Was the suit harmed? It worked perfectly. Was the suit outside armor/layer harmed? We saw some spots red and melting.
In general IM wasn't damaged. It all depends on your perspective.
However, can IM endure Thor's lighting. The clip clearly shows it can. Now, remember the Mk. 6 model is obsolete and weak in comparisson to the Nanosuit.
IM, Iron-Spider, Strange manhandle Thor. Thor's stamina will drop and Mantis will put him to sleep. Unless you have evidence Thor's stamina is limitless.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Watch the scene again. There were undead Asgardians attacking Thor from behind. His lightning automatically took them out without him even needing to think about it.
There is an electric field sorrounding Thor. Have you seen this electric spheres that when you put your hand on the plastic, the electricity moves towards your hand?
Samething happens here, the hordes were getting close to Thor, which resulted in the electricity hitting them.
Doesn't mean Thor was actually controlling those lightnings.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Was tony harmed? No. Was the suit harmed? It worked perfectly. Was the suit outside armor/layer harmed? We saw some spots red and melting.In general IM wasn't damaged. It all depends on your perspective.
However, can IM endure Thor's lighting. The clip clearly shows it can. Now, remember the Mk. 6 model is obsolete and weak in comparisson to the Nanosuit.
IM, Iron-Spider, Strange manhandle Thor. Thor's stamina will drop and Mantis will put him to sleep. Unless you have evidence Thor's stamina is limitless.
Yeah, the suit was harmed, as you can clearly see the melted tears running through it from a SINGLE lightning blast from pre-ragnarok Thor. Ragnarok Thor has better control of his lightning and can spam them continuously. Prove that IM can withstand multiple lightning blasts.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
There is an electric field sorrounding Thor. Have you seen this electric spheres that when you put your hand on the plastic, the electricity moves towards your hand?Samething happens here, the hordes were getting close to Thor, which resulted in the electricity hitting them.
Doesn't mean Thor was actually controlling those lightnings.
Still means the team can't lay their hands on him.
Originally posted by Robtard
That's the other thread, chief. This is Thor at full power in IF.So you're now saying Thor's lighting has only a range of 3 meters or so? I must say, that's even more foolish than your previous "Thor will run out of lighting" angle.
This is The 7 vs Hela. We diverged the topic to debate if Ragnarok Thor could win Rob.
Am saying Thor can't hit 7 targets that are far appart from each other simultaniously.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah, the suit was harmed, as you can clearly see the melted tears running through it from a SINGLE lightning blast from pre-ragnarok Thor. Ragnarok Thor has better control of his lightning and can spam them continuously. Prove that IM can withstand multiple lightning blasts.
It withstood multiple blasts from the Power Stone which >>>>>>> Lightning.
The lightning didn't breach Tony's armor, therefore IM is immune to lighting. Otherwise prove that Thor's lightning can penetrate the suit.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
It withstood multiple blasts from the Power Stone which >>>>>>> Lightning.The lightning didn't breach Tony's armor, therefore IM is immune to lighting. Otherwise prove that Thor's lightning can penetrate the suit.
I don't think you know what immune means. Getting melted tears throughout your suit does not equal being immune.
As for penetrating the suit, when one quick blast can make tears like that in your armor, common sense dictates that multiple blasts will make similar (if not more) damage to the armor. In short, it can't take multiple hits. Or are you implying that IM suit's interior is somehow far stronger than its exterior?
Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't think you know what immune means. Getting melted tears throughout your suit does not equal being immune.As for penetrating the suit, when one quick blast can make tears like that in your armor, common sense dictates that multiple blasts will make similar (if not more) damage to the armor. In short, it can't take multiple hits. Or are you implying that IM suit's interior is somehow far stronger than its exterior?
Immune:
protected or exempt, especially from an obligation or the effects of something
Is the mk. 6 immune to lightning? Yes, because Tony doesnt get electrocuted. Furthermore the suit is completely functional and whats worse, it actually absorbs the attack.
Now the fact that the outside is melting doesnt mean the suit can be breached. For instance, Tanks have several different layers of armor. The fact that the outside layer seems damage doesnt mean the tank is destroyed or weak to whatever hurt the outside.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Fact, Iron Man's suit has been damaged by lightning and is therefore not immune. Fact, you need to learn what words mean. Fact, Thor knows that Iron Man can absorb a certain amount of lightning and is therefore not likely to use lightning against him in a manner where it can be absorbed.
Definition of Damage:
physical harm caused to something in such a way as to impair its value, usefulness, or normal function.
Fact, you need to learn what words mean.
*Rebuked*
The fact that you think that definition supports your stance is hilarious. Iron Man's suit was visually damaged in such a way that it's obvious his armor would be incapable of providing the same level of protection as it did before the lightning strike.
So thank you again for proving that that I was correct. I appreciate that you took the time to debunk your own argument.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Immune:Is the mk. 6 immune to lightning? Yes, because Tony doesnt get electrocuted. Furthermore the suit is completely functional and whats worse, it actually absorbs the attack.
Now the fact that the outside is melting doesnt mean the suit can be breached. For instance, Tanks have several different layers of armor. The fact that the outside layer seems damage doesnt mean the tank is destroyed or weak to whatever hurt the outside.
Ok so let me get this straight. You're saying that IM can lie down on the ground and allow Thor to blast him the whole day with lightning and he'll be completely unscathed at the end of it?
Originally posted by Silent Master
The fact that you think that definition supports your stance is hilarious. Iron Man's suit was visually damaged in such a way that it's obvious his armor would be incapable of providing the same level of protection as it did before the lightning strike.So thank you again for proving that that I was correct. I appreciate that you took the time to debunk your own argument.
Prove that the suit's functionality was compromised!
Otherwise, grab a dictionary and inform yourself kiddo!
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok so let me get this straight. You're saying that IM can lie down on the ground and allow Thor to blast him the whole day with lightning and he'll be completely unscathed at the end of it?
1. Prove Thor can blast the whole day without his stamina getting compromised.
2. I never said the suit was invincible. Am saying that using lightning isn't a viable option here. More likely Thor will get tired before managing to cause an impact.
This is reasonable considering Thor didn't use lightning again in the rest of the fight. He realized it was useless.
I don't know why am even debating this, the scene is pretty clear.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Prove that the suit's functionality was compromised!Otherwise, grab a dictionary and inform yourself kiddo!
You already agreed the armor was melted in some areas, melted armor does not function as well as whole armor. Why are you asking me to prove something you already admitted is true?
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. Prove Thor can blast the whole day without his stamina getting compromised.2. I never said the suit was invincible. Am saying that using lightning isn't a viable option here. More likely Thor will get tired before managing to cause an impact.
This is reasonable considering Thor didn't use lightning again in the rest of the fight. He realized it was useless.
I don't know why am even debating this, the scene is pretty clear.
You're avoiding the question. Can IM survive a sustained lightning barrage from Thor for the whole day without a single scratch? Because that's what immune means. So do you really think IM is immune to lightning?