Superman Vs Umar

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Pinned her foe with the force of planets count as one,

Also, WBH's shockwave destroyed several planets and nearby moons, and averagely, Superman does not have showings on that range.

Which several planets? Hal Jordan just initiated a supernova while dying and Superman literally overpowered him in energy beams contest.

Also matter in Dark Dimension is easier to destroy than the regular space. Hence not as impressive as you think.

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From Doctor Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50 if you are curious.

Lol... Umar is also walking around with Dormammu power combined with her own. This is a slaughter and an easily.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor was literally talking hyperbole. He was put into coma by a falling boat mast in the same issue.

Not as impressive as you think. Strange was extremely fickle.

Is that supposed to be impressive?

Scans for these? I'm pretty sure context is involved in both.

Which several planets? Hal Jordan just initiated a supernova while dying and Superman literally overpowered him in energy beams contest.

Also matter in Dark Dimension is easier to destroy than the regular space. Hence not as impressive as you think.

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From Doctor Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50 if you are curious.

People already debunked that Strange scan. Stop trippin abhigail.

Thor was literally talking hyperbole. He was put into coma by a falling boat mast in the same issue.

Not as impressive as you think. Strange was extremely fickle.

Is that supposed to be impressive?

Scans for these? I'm pretty sure context is involved in both.

Also matter in Dark Dimension is easier to destroy than the regular space. Hence not as impressive as you think.

Hal Jordan just initiated a supernova while dying and Superman literally overpowered him in energy beams contest.

Originally posted by carver9
People already debunked that Strange scan. Stop trippin abhigail.

Abhigail? 😛

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Really?

Abhigail? 😛

I'm not getting into the name calling game, but yeah it was debunked by the Hulkster several months ago when he provided scans of certain areas that had normal gravity in the Dark Dimension versus the sections that did not. It boiled down to the sections that had normal gravity was due to that sections guardian or guardians being present. Umar was most certainly present in her section or solar system sized kingdom.

Aside from that, Superman has trouble with metaphysical beings, so it's no big deal here. He's simply out of his element against beings that defy the physical laws that he must abide by. Most characters are. If this was Captain Marvel vs Umar, I'd give him the nod due to his ability to hit magical creatures.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
And he has busted planets, and lifted the Midgard Serpent...etc

Thor has never destroyed any planet. The Midgard Serpent? Debunked long ago.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=573544&pagenumber=7

Go there.

Superman himself has low showings, nearly every powerhouse has low showings. In that instance he was most likely talking the truth given he had held planetary stuff before.

Where? Could you show us where he was even under weighing of one planet?

Using inconsistency as an argument doesn't work that well, and I was talking about Classic Strange who had destroyed a dimension.

Yes and who had lost to Namor.

Classic Strange might be the most inconsistent character ever.

You mean blasting through a planet? Superman had been KOed by moon busting attacks. Sure, this isn't quite impressive as others but Superman is not shrugging it off.

Superman quite literally shrugged off getting punched through Earth.

Shadow Moon is hardly just moon busting attack. At the speed it was moving, it would be far above planet busting attacks.

https://photos.google.com/u/1/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipM8DRScssKVlqNKnN2Ow1iWAXNKP0Lisz2fkvJg
https://photos.google.com/u/1/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipN2R2KK3rDwwi8Ha5gOtaI0GN49vmNqHK3s268Q
https://photos.google.com/u/1/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipOR7i94muWFGN5wV2hAsDxvoCInKMlGBQoucwGv

WBH was not even trying to bust the planet they were on, the gamma burst he released incinerated nearby moons and some planets.

It was all their strength. When the same happened on Earth, not even the surroundings were destroyed.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Incredible-Hulks-2010/Issue-635?id=33165

Yes, weaker, this term is generally used in a Dr Strange-related thread, but by how much? The burst also incinerated lord armageddon, amped Bi-Beast, amped Wendigo, and billions of mindless ones (in the past even three can post significant threat to the Defenders).

Yes, that's the main strength related part but you're acting like planet busting attack was the main thing.

Bi beast and Wendigo were not amped. Also mindless ones don't stack in durability. If the attack was potent enough to destroy one mindless one, it would do the same to others.

And Mindless Ones are jobbers who get killed by the likes of Blade.

Assuming a character always goes full potential is quite inaccurate. For example, Superman doesn't use his planet-cracking punches or moon-busting punches all the time, and Beta Ray Bill does not smash SB on others' face with planet busting strength during every encounter.

But in the same issue?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... Umar is also walking around with Dormammu power combined with her own. This is a slaughter and an easily.

Originally posted by carver9
People already debunked that Strange scan. Stop trippin abhigail.

Thor pull midgard serps. Feat crazee.

And yea. Wanna see these dark dimen scans.

Thor has never destroyed any planet. The Midgard Serpent? Debunked long ago.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=7

Where? Could you show us where he was even under weighing of one planet?

Yes and who had lost to Namor.

Classic Strange might be the most inconsistent character ever.

Superman quite literally shrugged off getting punched through Earth.

Shadow Moon is hardly just moon busting attack. At the speed it was moving, it would be far above planet busting attacks.

It was all their strength. When the same happened on Earth, not even the surroundings were destroyed.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/In...ue-635?id=33165

During WWH, Sentry unleashed tons of energy capable of destroying the Earth, but did it happen? LOL,NO, because he held back at last, and so did WBH.

Bi beast and Wendigo were not amped. Also mindless ones don't stack in durability. If the attack was potent enough to destroy one mindless one, it would do the same to others.

And Mindless Ones are jobbers who get killed by the likes of Blade

But in the same issue?

Where did that happen?

When has Superman fights resulted in a city being destroyed, let alone Earth. Scans please.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
And that doesn't mean the feat itself is completely unaccepted, given how there were users in that thread still believe in that feat.

Believing something false wouldn't make it true.

The feat is basically nothing.

World engine, the feat with Hercules...etc they prove him being planetary in strength, and he has multiple planet-busting statements.

World Engine is literally unquantifiable.

The arm wrestling with Hercules happens in future and hence alternate reality.

Statements would take you only so far.

Namor had drawn blood from Thanos, Jane Thor had drawn blood from Odin, Thing had drawn blood from Thanos...these are all the same by being plot induced stupidity.

That's just an example. Strange has literally dozens of such examples.

He has lost thrice to Spider-Man alone.

As he switched body with Bizzaro, yes, but the problem is there was only ONE feat, and you don't know how exactly the shadow moon's mass is when Superman destroyed it. Ironically the feat is generally mentioned as of Superman's lacking of durability.

Superman's body was punched through the planet while Bizarro had it.

Yes, we do. Relativity only increases the mass of the moon and Superman had literally mass going to infinity as specified.

Hulk wasn't even using full strength when they're on Earth, it was shown that he could finally stop holding back in the Dark Dimension for there being no innocents.

Hulk wasn't aware he wasn't on Earth. Until he was informed about that.

He was also giant sized.

During WWH, Sentry unleashed tons of energy capable of destroying the Earth, but did it happen? LOL,NO, because he held back at last, and so did WBH.

So Hulk thought he was in Dark Dimension but held back? A gamma bomb amped A bomb and She Hulk fought him without any issue too.

They were amped before going into the Dark Dimension. FFF also.

So what? It's not like shit similar to that had never happened.

Getting put into a coma by a ship mast but lifting planets mass? Where?

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Defenders 2005-2006, last issue.

Originally posted by carver9
When has Superman fights resulted in a city being destroyed, let alone Earth. Scans please.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-1987/Issue-215?id=16668

He has also destroyed planets fighting Emperor Joker, punched a planet sized chunk of source wall apart and destroyed Earth 2 with Kal L.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So where she was amped on Eternity power? Figured.
Superman 215. Superman and Zod fought each other whose damage was transferred to the planet by their connection to earth Superman had created. They literally punch the earth to rubble.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-1987/Issue-215?id=16668

He has also destroyed planets fighting Emperor Joker, punched a planet sized chunk of source wall apart and destroyed Earth 2 with Kal L.

They were connected to the planet. Any damage each received was transferred to the planet. Everyone knows this which is the reason no one mentions it.

Joker and Superman size dwarfed planets. Of course they can destroy them. Desperate post. .

Originally posted by carver9
They were connected to the planet. Any damage each received was transferred to the planet. Everyone knows this which is the reason no one mentions it.

Which means that the planet was destroyed by their attacks.

Joker and Superman size dwarfed planets. Of course they can destroy them. Desperate post. .

The planets were shrinking due to the infinite gravity Joker was applying on the whole universe. Their mass wasn't reduced.

And Superman was fighting in pretty much infinite gravity.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Which means that the planet was destroyed by their attacks.

The planets were shrinking due to the infinite gravity Joker was applying on the whole universe. Their mass wasn't reduced.

And Superman was fighting in pretty much infinite gravity.

After reading this post, this just made me realize that no matter what I say, you see what you want to see. This is ridiculous. No Superman expert use these showings. NONE OF THEM!!! I'm done.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
😂

ermm

What happened my dear Thorbag?

Originally posted by carver9
After reading this post, this just made me realize that no matter what I say, you see what you want to see. This is ridiculous. No Superman expert use these showings. NONE OF THEM!!! I'm done.

Then those "experts" are idiots.