Originally posted by h1a8
You actually do need to comb these movies for feats.
No one would remember details that small and irrelevant.
Silent clearly rewatched some scenes and took note.
You and Froth do this at times as well.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, the scene is during the Avengers fight. IM hits a leviathan with his laser and Jarvis informs him that he'll run out of power before he can get through the Leviathan's armor. Then a few scenes later Thor oneshots 2 leviathans and a bunch of other Chitauri sleds.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, the scene is during the Avengers fight. IM hits a leviathan with his laser and Jarvis informs him that he'll run out of power before he can get through the Leviathan's armor. Then a few scenes later Thor oneshots 2 leviathans and a bunch of other Chitauri sleds.
Thors lightning didnt damage the leviathans armor at all.
Thor simply electrocuted it.
The current traveled through the metal into the creature (metal is a conductor of electricity). Basically the feat is equivalent to damaging the inside of a large animal.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thors lightning didnt damage the leviathans armor at all.
Thor simply electrocuted it.
The current traveled through the metal into the creature (metal is a conductor of electricity). Basically the feat is equivalent to damaging the inside of a large animal.
Oh please, can you stop making bullsh!t up? Thor's lightning was making the chitauri sleds explode on contact and was burning holes on the leviathans and eventually caused them to explode.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Oh please, can you stop making bullsh!t up? Thor's lightning was making the chitauri sleds explode on contact and was burning holes on the leviathans and eventually caused them to explode.
Really?
You going to use a plot device as a standard feat. Thor used the building to achieve the feat.
Plus it appeared the belly that was damaged, not the metal.
In another scene, Thor electrocutes the leviathan without any damage to the metal.
Originally posted by h1a8
Really?
You going to use a plot device as a standard feat. Thor used the building to achieve the feat.Plus it appeared the belly that was damaged, not the metal.
In another scene, Thor electrocutes the leviathan without any damage to the metal.
Last I checked, a building's exterior doesn't amplify an electric current's voltage or ampere.
Anyway, you have clear proof in front of you where Thor's lightning burned holes through Leviathans and then made them explode. DD's HV has nothing as impressive.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Last I checked, a building's exterior doesn't amplify an electric current's voltage or ampere.Anyway, you have clear proof in front of you where Thor's lightning burned holes through Leviathans and then made them explode. DD's HV has nothing as impressive.
1. I wasn’t never arguing DD hv but Supermans.
2. It stored more electricity so that Thor can do a prolonged blast.
3. I don’t see where the metal was damaged. It was the under belly from my initial viewing.
1. Let me correct my statement then: Superman's HV has nothing as impressive
2. A prolonged blast doesn't change the charge of his lightning. Besides, there was no stipulation in this match that says they can't use their powers for prolonged durations.
3.a What metal? Prove that leviathans are covered in metal
3.b Prove that the leviathan's belly is made of a different material than the rest of its outer body
3.c Thor's lightning made the leviathans explode which is still way more impressive than anything Superman has done.
3.d You were just proven completely wrong in your claim that Thor never damaged the leviathans but only electrocuted them.
Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Let me correct my statement then: Superman's HV has nothing as impressive
2. A prolonged blast doesn't change the charge of his lightning. Besides, there was no stipulation in this match that says they can't use their powers for prolonged durations.
3.a What metal? Prove that leviathans are covered in metal
3.b Prove that the leviathan's belly is made of a different material than the rest of its outer body
3.c Thor's lightning made the leviathans explode which is still way more impressive than anything Superman has done.
3.d You were just proven completely wrong in your claim that Thor never damaged the leviathans but only electrocuted them.
2. It adds more energy which translates into more damage.
3. Their belly is exposed. Supermans hv has greater feat than IM laser. Therefore your logic about why Thors lightning is greater is faulty, assuming that the lightning busted up the metal. I never stated Thor didnt damage the leviathan. I stated he didnt damage the metal.
The belly being a weak spot is something that h1 just made up, remember that Iron-man asked Jarvis to find him a soft spot on the levathians. Jarvis responded.
http://transcripts.wikia.com/wiki/The_Avengers
Jarvis Sir, we will lose power before you cut through that shell.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marvels_the_avengers/quotes/
Jarvis: We will lose power before you cut through that shell.
http://fullmovietext.com/1/avengers/37/puny-god
Jarvis: We will lose power before you cut through that shell.
Originally posted by Silent Master
The belly being a weak spot is something that h1 just made up, remember that Iron-man asked Jarvis to find him a soft spot on the levathians. Jarvis responded.http://transcripts.wikia.com/wiki/The_Avengers
Jarvis Sir, we will lose power before you cut through that shell.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marvels_the_avengers/quotes/
Jarvis: We will lose power before you cut through that shell.
http://fullmovietext.com/1/avengers/37/puny-god
Jarvis: We will lose power before you cut through that shell.
We clearly see IM laser hit the metal, not the flesh.
The metal was the shell that Jarvis was talking about. Like a clam shell (hard on the outside and soft on the inside.)
Originally posted by Silent Master
h1 trying this hard to low-ball the feat means that he basically concedes that it destroys his argument.
The flesh has no feats. IM easily blew it up when Hulk flipped it over.
How can you equate the metal part with the flesh part?
And I’m lowballing?
That’s like showing Batmans armor resisting bullets and then showing someone damaging Bruce Wayne without armor and equating the attack as greater than bullet force.
Originally posted by h1a8
2. It adds more energy which translates into more damage.
3. Their belly is exposed. Supermans hv has greater feat than IM laser. Therefore your logic about why Thors lightning is greater is faulty, assuming that the lightning busted up the metal. I never stated Thor didnt damage the leviathan. I stated he didnt damage the metal.
2. No, letting an electric current run up and down a building doesn't increase its energy.
3. Prove that their belly is exposed. From what is seen in that brief video, their bellies are still armored... plus Jarvis specifically did not mention the belly as a weak spot.
Originally posted by FrothByte
2. No, letting an electric current run up and down a building doesn't increase its energy.
3. Prove that their belly is exposed. From what is seen in that brief video, their bellies are still armored... plus Jarvis specifically did not mention the belly as a weak spot.
In the Hulk leviathan feat. It chases IM to where Banner is. For a split moment you see underneath it. There is no armor there.
Common sense tells anyone the longer current flows into something from another source the more energy is transferred. I don’t even know why I’m arguing that. That’s not debatable. Period!
So, H1 is once again spouting BS directly contradicted by the films? Not surprised. Last time he tried to claim the Leviathan armour was "light, flimsy and malleable" (even though this directly contradicts the beginning of Homecoming, as well as how Chitauri materials were shown to compare to conventional earth materials on Luke Cage s1).
There is literally nothing during that entire fight to suggest their undersides were extra vulnerable. If there was, Jarvis would have told IM, who asked him to find a "soft spot", which he couldn't, which resulted in moments like the "Jonah and the whale" sequence where Tony had to blow one up from the inside. And he would have relayed those messages to the others, who would also have started targeting the undersides.
H1 stop wasting everyone’s time being annoying. IM clearly could not hurt the Leviathans with his most dangerous attack that can cut like HV. Thor’s more powerful lighting could completely burn through the metal and Hulk’s fists could damage them...it was such a classic comic book trope of establishing tiers...
Thor’s lightning is far more destructive and powerful but HV is probably better at cutting.