Which energy attack is more powerful?

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
So, H1 is once again spouting BS directly contradicted by the films? Not surprised. Last time he tried to claim the Leviathan armour was "light, flimsy and malleable" (even though this directly contradicts the beginning of Homecoming, as well as how Chitauri materials were shown to compare to conventional earth materials on Luke Cage s1).

There is literally nothing during that entire fight to suggest their undersides were extra vulnerable. If there was, Jarvis would have told IM, who asked him to find a "soft spot", which he couldn't, which resulted in moments like the "Jonah and the whale" sequence where Tony had to blow one up from the inside. And he would have relayed those messages to the others, who would also have started targeting the undersides.

Characters do and say stupid shit all the time in fiction. Doesnt mean anything. The metal shell is what IM struck. The flesh has no feats against the laser. Jarvis possibly didnt know about the underside. Jarvis calculated AFTER IM used the laser, not before. And the calculation was only about the SHELL (hence his words) and not the underside.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
H1 stop wasting everyones time being annoying. IM clearly could not hurt the Leviathans with his most dangerous attack that can cut like HV. Thor’s more powerful lighting could completely burn through the metal and Hulk’s fists could damage them...it was such a classic comic book trope of establishing tiers...

Thor’s lightning is far more destructive and powerful but HV is probably better at cutting.

1.IM laser feat does not match Supermans hv feat.
2. IM laser was clearly shown to hit the metal part.
3. Thor damaged the non metal part.
4. That was a plot device for Thor (using the building).

You have to defeat all these points. Defeating only a few of them will still have you with a losing argument.

Stil waiting for h1 to post clips showing the underbelly being unarmored.

Originally posted by h1a8
Characters do and say stupid shit all the time in fiction. Doesnt mean anything. The metal shell is what IM struck. The flesh has no feats against the laser. Jarvis possibly didnt know about the underside. Jarvis calculated AFTER IM used the laser, not before. And the calculation was only about the [B] SHELL (hence his words) and not the underside.[/B]

Post clear evidence of the Leviathan's flesh being exposed and unarmored underneath. Your shitty recollection of things doesn't cut it.

Edit: Now what a character says is "stupid shit" that "doesn't mean anything". Funny how character statements have now gone from undeniable fact when it suits you to meaningless shit when it doesn't. Next time you try and use a character statement as a feat, I will remember this.

^ Next time? Have we all forgotten the million ton key, which totally counts as canon because Jimmy Olsen said so?

Jimmy is a more reliable source than Jarvis obviously.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Next time? Have we all forgotten the million ton key, which totally counts as canon because Jimmy Olsen said so?

Jimmy is a more reliable source than Jarvis obviously.

Basically posters were already stating it doesn't count because Jimmy isn't a reliable source. It already has happened.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Post clear evidence of the Leviathan's flesh being exposed and unarmored underneath. Your shitty recollection of things doesn't cut it.

Edit: Now what a character says is "stupid shit" that "doesn't mean anything". Funny how character statements have now gone from undeniable fact when it suits you to meaningless shit when it doesn't. Next time you try and use a character statement as a feat, I will remember this.

The scene where it chases IM to where Banner is. In one of the cut scenes it shows it.

Jarvis has no way of knowing whether the laser can cut through the flesh.
He didn't know whether it can cut through the metal armor until after Tony tried. He calculated from there.

Also. IM damaged the flesh with unimpressive attacks. That would make the laser in that scene shitty wouldn't it?

Also you have to defeat all 4 of these points below. Not one or two.

1.IM laser feat does not match Supermans hv feat.
2. IM laser was clearly shown to hit the metal part.
3. Thor damaged the non metal part.
4. That was a plot device for Thor (using the building).

Originally posted by h1a8
Basically posters were already stating it doesn't count because Jimmy isn't a reliable source. It already has happened.

The scene where it chases IM to where Banner is. In one of the cut scenes it shows it.

Jarvis has no way of knowing whether the laser can cut through the flesh.
He didn't know whether it can cut through the metal armor until after Tony tried. He calculated from there.

Also. IM damaged the flesh with unimpressive attacks. That would make the laser in that scene shitty wouldn't it?

Also you have to defeat all 4 of these points below. Not one or two.

1.IM laser feat does not match Supermans hv feat.
2. IM laser was clearly shown to hit the metal part.
3. Thor damaged the non metal part.
4. That was a plot device for Thor (using the building).

Please post a clip where it shows the Leviathan's underbelly is not armored. If you can't post proof, we'll assume you're lying.

Also, until you can prove that the leviathan's armor is actually metal, please stop referring to it as "the metal part".

Originally posted by h1a8
Basically posters were already stating it doesn't count because Jimmy isn't a reliable source. It already has happened.

Doesn't matter, what matters is that you treated it as 100% true and basically called people trolls for disagreeing.

So your stance here proves who the real troll is.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Please post a clip where it shows the Leviathan's underbelly is not armored. If you can't post proof, we'll assume you're lying.

Also, until you can prove that the leviathan's armor is actually metal, please stop referring to it as "the metal part".

Originally posted by h1a8

Looks pretty heavily armored to me. I asked for proof that it wasn't armored like you claimed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Looks pretty heavily armored to me. I asked for proof that it wasn't armored like you claimed.

There is no armor there.
Watch the Hulk vs Leviathan scene. At 0:32 start watching. It's more clearer in motion.

But anyway
You have to defeat all 4 of these points below. Not one or two.

1.IM laser feat does not match Supermans hv feat.
2. IM laser was clearly shown to hit the metal part.
3. Thor damaged the non metal part.
4. That was a plot device for Thor (using the building)

Explain in detail why you accept Jimmy Olsen's comments but not Jarvis's.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Explain in detail why you accept Jimmy Olsen's comments but not Jarvis's.

I accept Jarvis and not Jimmy.
Jarvis was referring to the "shell"

It was an outlier for supergirl

Originally posted by h1a8
There is no armor there.
Watch the Hulk vs Leviathan scene. At 0:32 start watching. It's more clearer in motion.

But anyway
You have to defeat all 4 of these points below. Not one or two.

1.IM laser feat does not match Supermans hv feat.
2. IM laser was clearly shown to hit the metal part.
3. Thor damaged the non metal part.
4. That was a plot device for Thor (using the building)

Tell you what, once you've proven the underbelly is unarmored then I'll happily address your points. No use addressing them beforehand since points 2 and 3 rely heavily on your theory about the underbelly being unarmored.

So that said, where's your proof? You mentioned a timestamp yet I don't see you posting a clip? Where's your vid h1? Or do you admit that you were mistaken, since the pic you posted clearly shows the belly being heavily armored.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Tell you what, once you've proven the underbelly is unarmored then I'll happily address your points. No use addressing them beforehand since points 2 and 3 rely heavily on your theory about the underbelly being unarmored.

So that said, where's your proof? You mentioned a timestamp yet I don't see you posting a clip? Where's your vid h1? Or do you admit that you were mistaken, since the pic you posted clearly shows the belly being heavily armored.

I can post the video if you want.
But if you don’t address the other points then you are still at a loss,
Even if you are right in this case.

Originally posted by h1a8
I accept Jarvis and not Jimmy.
Jarvis was referring to the "shell"

It was an outlier for supergirl

The fact that you're calling it an outlier for Supergirl is proof that you're accepting Jimmy's word for the weight of the key. And if you accepted Jarvis' word you would admit that Leviathan had no weak points that could be damaged by Tony's weapons.

You're very clearly lying about who's word you're taking as true.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The fact that you're calling it an outlier for Supergirl is proof that you're accepting Jimmy's word for the weight of the key. And if you accepted Jarvis' word you would admit that Leviathan had no weak points that could be damaged by Tony's weapons.

You're very clearly lying about who's word you're taking as true.

Jarvis never said nor implied Tonys laser couldnt affect the underside.
And Tony easily busted through the leviathan when he entered it.
And Tonys laser only has one application.

If you don't accept Jimmy's word, why is it an outlier?

H1, just post the video then I'll address your points.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you don't accept Jimmy's word, why is it an outlier?

I spoke incorrectly.
It isnt an outlier if we do not except Jimmys word.
If we do then it is.

Originally posted by h1a8
I spoke incorrectly.
It isnt an outlier if we do not except Jimmys word.
If we do then it is.

When did your opinion change, because in the thread in question you most certainly did accept Jimmy's word.