Titan 7 vs. Thor w/ Stormbreaker

Originally posted by FrothByte
I did. Nothing there has her mentioning reality warping as a way to deal with the mirror dimension. You're making stuff up again.

It's clearly purple, the Power stone Thanos uses to smash apart the Mirror attack. There was no reality warping as we've seen Thanos do with turning Drax into blocks, reshaping the environment, creating/morphing flying creatures etc. Josh is making shit up again.

My hope is that he's trying to troll to win his argument and isn't actually retarded.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's clearly purple, the Power stone Thanos uses to smash apart the Mirror attack. There was no reality warping as we've seen Thanos do with turning Drax into blocks, reshaping the environment, creating/morphing flying creatures etc. Josh is making shit up again.

My hope is that he's trying to troll to win his argument and isn't actually retarded.

I already posted a picture and written evidence showing that the reality stone was used and that that reality warping is required to break the mirror dimension.

You utterly ignored my post. You never replied. Concession accepted, you were wrong.

Dont worry, I forgive you for calling me a liar.

It's purple, not red. Even if the Reality stone was used, it didn't warp reality as we have clear showings of when that happens. It would have been just powered up.

Considering that Stormbreaker already shrugged off the Reality stone along with the five other stones in the rainbow blast, your point is as its always been, pointless. Your wrong as fact and you likely are a liar.

Just looked at the movie in 4k. It's purple. Didn't see any red at all and I ran it over and over like til my wife was starting to wonder about my sanity (and with that, I will stop rewatching it and just post my findings).

There is short segment (@1:59:23 of the movie when Thanos punches the mirror-effect prior to it shattering) that LOOKS like it is red but I feel like it is actually just the red/blue of the color purple being refracted by the fragmented mirror-effect (since there is a blue light right under it that combines to purple in the middle).

That's what I think at least.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The sling ring is a reality warping device, ergo you need to warp reality to break from the mirror dimension.

So are you saying anyone can access dimensions? 😂

You dont need to warp reality in order to creare a mirror dimension?

The sling ring creates portals to get from one place to another. In other words, it warps space, not reality. Just like the Space stone allows Thanos to create portals. If you want to claim the sling ring changes reality, prove it. Show me a clip where it actively changes reality.

And even then, the Ancient One never said that only reality warping can defeat the mirror dimension. i.e. - you're making stuff up.

Man, just skipped to the last part of the movie, Thanos being able to effortlessly pluck the mind gem from within organic vibranium (w/c IIRC is supposed to be even stronger than regular vibranium) is a pretty badass strength "feat".

Originally posted by Robtard
It's clearly purple, the Power stone Thanos uses to smash apart the Mirror attack. There was no reality warping as we've seen Thanos do with turning Drax into blocks, reshaping the environment, creating/morphing flying creatures etc. Josh is making shit up again.

My hope is that he's trying to troll to win his argument and isn't actually retarded.

Josh latched on to this since he knows it's the only bone he's got. Without this argument he knows he'll lose. So he creates stuff up (reality stone was warping reality against Strange but not against Thor) as is standard for Josh's mutated strawman arguments.

Josh really is a piss poor debater in that he made another claim he cannot verify but only attempts to reinforce with his own misguided attempts at so called debating. If he was good at backing a claim he’d have irrefutable proof to his claim not people saying purple while he screams red. Rinse and repeat.

Thors thrown axe powering through a blast from the gauntlet doesn’t mean it can resist the effects of the stone just as Iron Mans shield deflecting the blast from the power stone doesn’t mean his shield is more powerful than the power stone. This means the blast used was not powerful enough to destroy the shield. The same reasoning can be used with the axe thrown by his strength and being that powerful of a weapon is sufficient to go through force of the blast used by the stones.

@Robtard @FrothByte!

Let's close this discussion once and for all!

Evidence that the Reality Stone was used:

Battle of Titan:

Wiki support:

Doctor Strange opened a gateway to the Mirror Dimension to protect himself against an energy blast from the Power Stone unleashed by Thanos and then send the gateway at Thanos, but it is negated and deflected by Thanos, who used the Reality Stone to prevent it from trapping him

I forgive you Rob! You are misinformed, and simply a bit blind.

Evidence that Reality Warping and more specifically dimensional manipulation is required

The Ancient One -

You are now inside the mirror dimension, ever present but undetected. The real world isn't affected by what happens here. We use the mirror dimension to train, surveil, and sometimes to contain threats. You don't want to be stuck inside here without your Sling Ring.

Sling Ring:

A Sling Ring is a mystical object which enables the wearer to open a dimensional gateway to another location.

Dimensions or realites are universes parallel to each other, which altogether form a multiverse.

Karl Mordo -

"Mastery of the Sling Rings is essential to the Mystic Arts. It allows us to travel throughout the Multiverse. All you have to do is focus. Visualize. See the destination in your mind. Look beyond the world in front of you."

The Sling Ring allows it's wearer to travel throughout the MULTIVERSE. In other words, it allows the wearer to travel trhoughout the different realites/dimensions.

Now FrothByte, I never said the Sling Ring doesn't allow for teleportation/space manipulation. I said it can alter reality and can access dimensions! Stop trying to change the subject!

Conclusion

Thanos did used the Reality Stone. To travel through dimensions/realities you require a tool that alters reality.

SB isn't the Reality Stone (It can't replicate what the Reality Stone does). SB isn't coming out of that Mirror Dimension, ergo Thor loses to Strange! Get over it Thor fanboys!

PS:

I have brought the evidences backing my case. All Froth and Rob have been doing is refute and wabble! Your opinion matters not kiddo's, you want do debate you need arguments AND evidence.

If you want to claim that SB can come out of that Mirror Dimension you have to:

1. Prove that SB can replicate the things the Reality Stone can do.
2. Prove that SB can replicate the things the Power Stone can do.

😂 Poor little fellows.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Josh really is a piss poor debater in that he made another claim he cannot verify but only attempts to reinforce with his own misguided attempts at so called debating. If he was good at backing a claim he’d have irrefutable proof to his claim not people saying purple while he screams red. Rinse and repeat.

Thors thrown axe powering through a blast from the gauntlet doesn’t mean it can resist the effects of the stone just as Iron Mans shield deflecting the blast from the power stone doesn’t mean his shield is more powerful than the power stone. This means the blast used was not powerful enough to destroy the shield. The same reasoning can be used with the axe thrown by his strength and being that powerful of a weapon is sufficient to go through force of the blast used by the stones.

Look above Quan and shut up! Am debating Froth and Rob; your opinion wasn't asked!

I know you are pissed off because DT demolished you a couple of pages ago! If you want me to continue what DT finished, do it in the MvF Off-Topic Circle Jerk, and i will gladly wipe your ass again.

Now, stop interupting or I will call IMP.

Josh does not grasp what words mean and conflates terms all the time. I hope this finally exposes his low intelligence for the last time.

Josh, yeah that is the moment I am talking about. In 4k, it looks like a refraction of the purple glow of the gauntlet (w/c you will see is NOT the blue/red light you have encircled but the purple glow in the very front to the right of the glow which is where Thanos' fist is in that moment).

You can tell from the immediate frames following the said punch that the light was simply a reflection of the purple light refracted by the mirror-effect.

The light you are pointing out is actually located around his shoulder in that exact moment.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
@Robtard @FrothByte!

Let's close this discussion once and for all!

[B]Evidence that the Reality Stone was used:

Battle of Titan:

Wiki support: (I used size 5 so Robtard can see, since he is a bit blind)

I forgive you Rob! You are misinformed, and simply a bit blind.

Evidence that Reality Warping and more specifically dimensional manipulation is required

The Ancient One -

Sling Ring:

Dimensions or realites are universes parallel to each other, which altogether form a multiverse.

Karl Mordo -

The Sling Ring allows it's wearer to travel throughout the MULTIVERSE. In other words, it allows the wearer to travel trhoughout the different realites/dimensions.

Now FrothByte, I never said the Sling Ring doesn't allow for teleportation/space manipulation. I said it can alter reality and can access dimensions! Stop trying to change the subject!

Conclusion

Thanos did used the Reality Stone. To travel through dimensions/realities you require a tool that alters reality.

SB isn't the Reality Stone (It can't replicate what the Reality Stone does). SB isn't coming out of that Mirror Dimension, ergo Thor loses to Strange! Get over it Thor fanboys!

PS:

I have brought the evidences backing my case. All Froth and Rob have been doing is refute and wabble! Your opinion matters not kiddo's, you want do debate you need arguments AND evidence.

If you want to claim that SB can come out of that Mirror Dimension you have to:

1. Prove that SB can replicate the things the Reality Stone can do.
2. Prove that SB can replicate the things the Power Stone can do.

😂 Poor little fellows. [/B]

1. Please provide a notice from Imp that states wikis are considered canon in these threads.

2. A sling ring opens a portal to get you to and from a place. If this is your definition of reality warping, then SB does this as well with the Bifrost.

3. The ancient one never said that only reality warping can defeat the mirror dimension.

4. You still haven't proven that Thanos used reality warping to dispel the mirror dimension.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Look above Quan and shut up! Am debating Froth and Rob; your opinion wasn't asked!

I know you are pissed off because DT demolished you a couple of pages ago! If you want me to continue what DT finished, do it in the MvF Off-Topic Circle Jerk, and i will gladly wipe your ass again.

Now, stop interupting or I will call IMP.

I also debated but you have yet to respond to my debating points but instead focus on my assessment of your intellect alone. If you can’t take criticism leave the board.

Ok, Josh was partially right accoring to the wikia, Reality stone was used as were others, his claim of "To break the mirror dimention you need to be able to warp reality" is still false though, it's also very telling how he purposely cut the quote short, because he's a liar. See below.

In full: Doctor Strange opened a gateway to the Mirror Dimension to protect himself against an energy blast from the Power Stone unleashed by Thanos and then send the gateway at Thanos, but it is negated and deflected by Thanos, who used the Reality Stone to prevent it from trapping him and then the Power Stone to empower the Infinity Gauntlet to be able to shatter the dimensional gate and then the Space Stone to compress the remains into a destructive black hole that he threw at the sorcerer.

So as before, Stormbreaker was capable of shrugging off an attack of all six stones at once, it would just shatter the Mirror attack.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Josh, yeah that is the moment I am talking about. In 4k, it looks like a refraction of the purple glow of the gauntlet (w/c you will see is NOT the blue/red light you have encircled but the purple glow in the very front to the right of the glow which is where Thanos' fist is in that moment).

You can tell from the immediate frames following the said punch that the light was simply a reflection of the purple light refracted by the mirror-effect.

The light you are pointing out is actually located around his shoulder in that exact moment.

Yeah I noticed the violet light infront.

The scene is clearly a refraction of the light. The front violet light is the glowing part that has managed to break the Mirror Dimension.

The red and bluish light is the part of light that is still refracted by the mirror. Thanos is punching horizontally, which means that the power stone is covering the reality stone. So, you wouldn't see it active. However, that refraction could be the light of the Reality Stone which is refracted by one of the side mirrors.

Now it could be possible that the two circles is caused by deffraction. However, if you check a couple of ms prior to the MD engulfing Thanos, you will see a red light arround the purple one being reflected by the gauntlet.

Indication that the Red Stone was active.

The wiki comes to confirm my belief.

Not saying the reality stone was inactive.

But I see no red glow (other than the reflected light w/c are refracted purple) on the 4k video though. 😛

It's hard to trust reflections on the mirror-effect as those evidently cause refraction of light that splits the red/blue on purple. Any shot directly on the gauntlet itself were all purple.

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Please provide a notice from Imp that states wikis are considered canon in these threads.

2. A sling ring opens a portal to get you to and from a place. If this is your definition of reality warping, then SB does this as well with the Bifrost.

3. The ancient one never said that only reality warping can defeat the mirror dimension.

4. You still haven't proven that Thanos used reality warping to dispel the mirror dimension.

Read the 2nd rule in the MVF Rules. Inform yourself.

Everything is explained in my previous post. Pretending to ignore won't help you Froth.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Not saying the reality stone was inactive.

But I see no red glow (other than the reflected light w/c are refracted purple) on the 4k video though. 😛

Am open to the idea of it being inactive to be honest. Isn't like it would make a difference in this case.

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Point is higher proof is required than a wiki link. The movie does not make it clear watching the scene since it happens quickly and is hard to pinpoint so anyone is free to their own opinion on the matter but without an official statement it is just a wiki page.