Originally posted by h1a8
And Rage assuming that Etri's words were meant literally when it goes against common sense, what we see, and the evidence IS BAD GUESSING.
If you cant provide the quote from the movie or the writer which states that Thor only withstood the heat energy, That means at best you're just guessing. thus you insisting your opinion is fact makes you a liar.
Originally posted by Silent Master
The forge using heat doesn't mean that things like gravity cease to exist.
Gravity pulls one towards the star, not away. You have to get energy from the star to the forge, not backwards.
If you say the forge reverses gravity (more made up BS) then why would they do that when gravity doesn’t melt shit?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor was the only one that got hit by the beam. Besides, the world engine was neither a reality warping device nor a planet buster
The beam should throw off a ton of heat, as should the molten metal. Let alone the sun, which was pretty darned close to the area, should have given off a wave of heat outside of the focusing beam.
I mean, think about how a fire works. Everyone near it feels the heat.
Originally posted by h1a8
Gravity pulls one towards the star, not away. You have to get energy from the star to the forge, not backwards. If you say the forge reverses gravity (more made up BS) then why would they do that when gravity doesn't melt shit?
If you can't provide the quote from the movie or the writer which states that Thor only withstood the heat energy, That means at best you're just guessing. thus you insisting your opinion is fact makes you a liar.
It's evidently clear the Forge is designed to harness the star's power, while keeping the inhabitants of the Forge safe from it's destructive capabilities. Eitri being the head smith or at least the best smith, would be fully aware of what he was talking about when he said the 'you'll be taking the full force of the star', that line was writing specifically to illustrate what Thor tanked for a good 20seconds before passing out and nearly dying.
If someone wants to say Eitri was bullshitting, meant something else, was confused, likes dwarf-dick up his butt etc., it's for them to prove it.
Originally posted by h1a8
And Rage assuming that Etri’s words were meant literally when it goes against common sense, what we see, and the evidence IS BAD GUESSING.
I took the description of the forging process given by the Master Dwarf of Asgard, the greatest weapon builder in the entire MCU (Even Rocket knows about him) that has been building weapons for milennia at his word as to what happened. Silly me.
It should clearly not count because something something gravity despite them clearly using a mixture of Asgardian science/magic.
Originally posted by Robtard
It's evidently clear the Forge is designed to harness the star's power, while keeping the inhabitants of the Forge safe from it's destructive capabilities. Eitri being the head smith or at least the best smith, would be fully aware of what he was talking about when he said the 'you'll be taking the full force of the star', that line was writing specifically to illustrate what Thor tanked for a good 20seconds before passing out and nearly dying.If someone wants to say Eitri was bullshitting, meant something else, was confused, likes dwarf-dick up his butt etc., it's for them to prove it.
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@h1a8...
When Thor opened the Iris, clearly the Light Photons (or rather the Photons from the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum) were coming through...
Do you have any evidence to support your stance that the Xray and Gamma ray photons (which make up a considerable portion of a Neutron Stars output) were not coming through?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@h1a8...When Thor opened the Iris, clearly the Light Photons (or rather the Photons from the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum) were coming through...
Do you have any evidence to support your stance that the Xray and Gamma ray photons (which make up a considerable portion of a Neutron Stars output) were not coming through?
Sure, X-rays and gamma rays possibly hit Thor. I can accept that.
Originally posted by Robtard
It's evidently clear the Forge is designed to harness the star's power, while keeping the inhabitants of the Forge safe from it's destructive capabilities. Eitri being the head smith or at least the best smith, would be fully aware of what he was talking about when he said the 'you'll be taking the full force of the star', that line was writing specifically to illustrate what Thor tanked for a good 20seconds before passing out and nearly dying.If someone wants to say Eitri was bullshitting, meant something else, was confused, likes dwarf-dick up his butt etc., it's for them to prove it.
Etri was referring to the “full” heat temperature and possibly along with radiation.
The heat temperature and radiation (possibly) of the star was directed, as a beam, towards the forge to melt the ore.
Note: Over 90% of the star’s surface area was still emitting energy in other directions. Even if not (we clearly see that it is), then Thor withstood a beam that had heat energy and radiation in it. The temperature of said beam is, at maximum, that of the temperature of the star.
Originally posted by Silent MasterThere is no such thing as guessing when it comes to fiction. You are assuming that these things actually happened.
If you can't provide the quote from the movie or the writer which states that Thor only withstood the heat energy, That means at best you're just guessing. thus you insisting your opinion is fact makes you a liar.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh stop trolling h1. Youre wrong. It was made clear by Etri. Anything else is speculation.
You are arguing in circles. You are assuming what you are trying to prove.
How was it made clear?
What is seen supports the figurative language.
We see heat, we see flames, and we know that is all that's needed to melt the ore. Anything else is speculation.
Just go by common sense. We all knew what was happening when we first saw the scene. Rage proposed this grand theory that no one thought about until AFTER he posted. Then people jumped on the bandwagon. That alone proves my point.
^ Stop with the Trolling because youre butthurt over the feat.
If it was a DC feat youd be wanking it to no end.
Eitri makes it perfectly clear. Anything else is butthurt speculation.
And its a very lame attempt at lowballing by you anyway, given you dont seem to understand the ridiculous durability feat it would be to take even just the full Heat of a dying star for that long.
You dont understand that Asgardians don’t have special durability just for heat, and you dont understand the amount of kinetic energy involved with that much heat. Wayyyy more impressive than taking jet bullets or getting punched through skyscrapers LMAO.
Because you dont really have any science credentials and lack massive common sense.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Stop with the Trolling because youre butthurt over the feat.If it was a DC feat youd be wanking it to no end.
Eitri makes it perfectly clear. Anything else is butthurt speculation.
And its a very lame attempt at lowballing by you anyway, given you dont seem to understand the ridiculous durability feat it would be to take even just the full Heat of a dying star for that long.
You dont understand that Asgardians don’t have special durability just for heat, and you dont understand the amount of kinetic energy involved with that much heat. Wayyyy more impressive than taking jet bullets or getting punched through skyscrapers LMAO.
Because you dont really have any science credentials and lack massive common sense.
And lets not forget about the insane of amounts of ionizing radiation Neutron Stars emit...
I would be willing to bet that some of those burns on Thor were made by ionizing radiation opposed to heat...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
And lets not forget about the insane of amounts of ionizing radiation Neutron Stars emit...I would be willing to bet that some of those burns on Thor were made by ionizing radiation opposed to heat...
Yeah logically how could it Just be Heat without any of the radiation, or other forces? Was there some Asgardian filter there? And if so why would the writers through Eitri specifically state the full FORCE of the Star? Why not just say full HEAT?
We should take Eitri and the writers at their word, unless retconned later on.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Stop with the Trolling because youre butthurt over the feat.If it was a DC feat youd be wanking it to no end.
Eitri makes it perfectly clear. Anything else is butthurt speculation.
And its a very lame attempt at lowballing by you anyway, given you dont seem to understand the ridiculous durability feat it would be to take even just the full Heat of a dying star for that long.
You dont understand that Asgardians don’t have special durability just for heat, and you dont understand the amount of kinetic energy involved with that much heat. Wayyyy more impressive than taking jet bullets or getting punched through skyscrapers LMAO.
Because you dont really have any science credentials and lack massive common sense.
All Asgardians are different, different strength levels, different durability levels, different abilities, etc.
Are are many materials than are extremely heat resistant but are not bulletproof. There are also materials that are bulletproof but not heat resistant. Conductivity plays a large role.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
And lets not forget about the insane of amounts of ionizing radiation Neutron Stars emit...I would be willing to bet that some of those burns on Thor were made by ionizing radiation opposed to heat...
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah logically how could it Just be Heat without any of the radiation, or other forces? Was there some Asgardian filter there? And if so why would the writers through Eitri specifically state the full FORCE of the Star? Why not just say full HEAT?We should take Eitri and the writers at their word, unless retconned later on.
Stars only emit gravity force, which is an INWARD FORCE.
Stars have magnetic fields (these aren't force).
So it makes no sense to literally mean FORCE.