Originally posted by carver9
Did you read and look at the scans. Look at what happened, please.
Be damned if I can remember what, but I'm certain there's some kind of context to this. The professor and Superman made it clear there was an odd repellant effect to his powers mixing with the electricity, and not that Parasite was overloaded with more power then he can hold.
I'd bet dollars to donuts this is related to Byrnes revamping of his abilities.
Originally posted by carver9
Showing Parasite being overloaded. I made a post mentioning absorption between that version of Superman vs Hulk and someone disputed my comment which led to me posting what I posted.🙂
The logic is
Parasite can't absorb Superman at his base level but he can absorb Superman when amp... 😱
Originally posted by xJLxKing
So going by thatThe logic is
Parasite can't absorb Superman at his base level but he can absorb Superman when amp... 😱
So you're making up your own thing? If this is what you want to believe then I'm cool with it.
What IIIIIIIIII said was, Superman power ADDED WITH ELECTRICTY overloaded Parasite. I dont even know where you got Superman base from. What do you have beside you? Wine? Gin? Vodka? blunt? It has to be something that cause delusion.
Originally posted by carver9
"He couldnt handle your energy on top of electricity". Yep, he most def got overloaded.
Wait, wut.
Lol.
Please re-read the scans again.
'The REPELLANT effect caused him to EXPEND all of his energy'......
It wasn't overloading him. The two energies, when mixed together, caused Parasite to expend all his energy.
Think of it as eating a crap ton of food....then drinking a ton of vodka (which is what I suspect you're doing now). Mix them together, and it causes you to vomit. Not because you can't handle your drink, or because you can't handle those burgers, but the two mixed together causes a reaction....
Originally posted by carver9
So you're making up your own thing? If this is what you want to believe then I'm cool with it.What IIIIIIIIII said was, Superman power ADDED WITH ELECTRICTY overloaded Parasite. I dont even know where you got Superman base from. What do you have beside you? Wine? Gin? Vodka? blunt? It has to be something that cause delusion.
okay, so let me repeat...
What does
"Superman power ADDED WITH ELECTRICTY overloaded Parasite"
even add to your argument?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think the scan can be somewhat misinterpreted because on one hand the doc says he couldn't handle both but immediately afterwards he mentioned the repellant effect
They're not mutually exclusive statements, though.
Parasite couldn't handle both the energies, due to them mixing and causing a repellant effect. THAT effect is what then caused him to expend his energy.
Originally posted by carver9
Parasite decides to flee when he is threatened with the energy of a nuclear explosion.https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211388?list=post-88180771_895
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211391?list=post-88180771_895
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211397?list=post-88180771_895
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211401?list=post-88180771_895He runs and depletes the energy he stole. Lol... normal Paradite is then thrown in a cocoon and then dropped in a small explosion (even while protected) and he is koed from the blast.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yep. 👆When Henshaw attempted to kill Supes via blasting him with k-nite, Eradicator jumped in the way of the blast before it directly touched Supes(essentially sacrificing himself), and the bleed-over energies then passed into Superman. After this happened, Supes was not only returned to full power, but he felt better than ever:
https://i.imgur.com/A5Fc715.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZUOr1em.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IMFlneF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PpaVx4Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JqED6sp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TL1K0F7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jsqwvoo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8uYRKnL.jpg
"I'm rejuvenated in a way I never thought possible! Something tells me I'll be able to handle anything better than ever!"
______________________________________Soon thereafter(the same month/year the H/P arc began), it would be revealed that Superman had become immensely more powerful. Examples...
"Just tapped him a little... And he flew back like I hit him with my best haymaker!":
https://i.imgur.com/KgUftR4.jpg"Even using as little effort as possible, I'm still stronger...faster...and more powerful than ever before!":
https://i.imgur.com/vyiofCJ.jpg
______________________________________Superman's amp was then explained...
Hamilton: "You're absorbing solar radiation --and other energies-- much faster than ever before! This is because you've been irradiated by something vaguely familiar to Kryptonite -- call it Kryptonite-X."
Superman: "The last time I was exposed to Kryptonite, it passed through the Eradiactor first... Recharging my powers instantly!"
Hamilton: "A bit of foreshadowing there, I'd say. Bluntly, there's no physical way to expend your energy fast enough. Your powers will keep increasing until your body can't contain them.":
https://i.imgur.com/O04ni6h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kuppq8g.jpg
______________________________________Superman himself mentioned his increased power during the H/P arc(before he had even obtained a MotherBox)...
"I'm better than before, too! Stronger.":
https://i.imgur.com/DNjZeeh.jpg
______________________________________His amplified power during the H/P-era was reinforced again here...
"After his recovery, [Superman] was stronger than ever. Good thing, too -- 'cause Doomsday had cheated death as well! Even with the extra power, he still needed some gizmo called a 'Mother Box' to help him stand up to Doomsday.":
https://i.imgur.com/xTntuCb.jpg
______________________________________And of course, Superman continued to absorb/metabolize ALL forms of energy, pretty much unchecked... Which ultimately led to his bulky/overpowered form:
https://i.imgur.com/c1ZQVnk.jpg
I forgot how powerful Superman became. 👆
Wouldn't this amp, even at this level, be utterly inconsequential to the multiple level of power tiers that Hulk jumped through World Breaker Hulk (Genuine Question)? In the HoM arc, it was like a DBZ arc. Hulk indirectly vaporized multiple characters who were amped multiple hundred of times themselves, who were previously amped before that IIRC and so on?
Superman's transformation was far more realistic and enjoyable in a more nuanced form, but I struggle to see how he can compete even remotely here? Superman probably grew a dozen times stronger from his already formidable amp in H/P, but Hulk had gotten hundreds of times stronger from his WWH levels which were already operating on a level that Superman (Non-amped) would have a real handful with.
I'll re-read HoM (I don't want to tbh), to get a clearer picture, but I remember on my second read through thinking, we'd reached a level where technically, he should one-shot (Indirectly) everyone below Galactus level as stupid as it sounds. The inconsequential prescence of Umar when her realm was destroyed IIRC suggests a level even past that as ridiculous as that sounds. But if we're going to debate it, we have to accept it within these parameters, and treat it as relevant. Greg Pak is like Herpes; you just have to deal with it, once you catch it.
I'm going to call the HoM arc, the green pill of comic books. Hulk is Hulk.
A dozen times?
If you use Parasite as a baseline, he managed to drain off Superman enough where he was completely at his mercy, and still had the upper hand later when he used the force field/electricity trick. Taking as much off his amped form had no effect at all, so we're talking baseline Superman levels as "drop in the bucket".
Because even at ten-twelve fold levels, an entire baselines worth should have "some" visable effect. A little shrinkage. But nope, nothing.
At the peak of his amp(when he was fully bulked up), Superman was several orders of magnitude beyond his 'standard' levels.
As the scans mention: even at the very beginning of his amp, Superman was using as little effort as possible, yet still stated he was stronger, faster, and more powerful than EVER before. The same Superman compared his lightest touch then with his most powerful haymaker before the amp.
...And again, that was just the beginning of his amp. By the end he'd become VASTLY stronger still -- to the point where even when he allowed Parasite to absorb "as much energy as ever before", it didn't even begin to start draining him.
Regardless, I'm sure carver will rush in soon and 'thumbs up' the shit out of your post, cuz Hulk. *sighs*
A weak depleted Superman was withstanding attacks from this same Parasite that was amplified off of this amazing amp Superman...
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321571?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321576?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321578?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321585?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321603?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321612?list=post-88180771_960
I feel confident an exhausted Superman would not endure a single punch from this Hulk. No matter how much you want to uplay him.
Originally posted by carver9
A weak depleted Superman was withstanding attacks from this same Parasite that was amplified off of this amazing amp Superman...https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321571?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321576?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321578?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321585?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321603?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321612?list=post-88180771_960I feel confident an exhausted Superman would not endure a single punch from this Hulk. No matter how much you want to uplay him.
Show the next scan.
Originally posted by cdtm
A dozen times?If you use Parasite as a baseline, he managed to drain off Superman enough where he was completely at his mercy, and still had the upper hand later when he used the force field/electricity trick. Taking as much off his amped form had no effect at all, so we're talking baseline Superman levels as "drop in the bucket".
Because even at ten-twelve fold levels, an entire baselines worth should have "some" visable effect. A little shrinkage. But nope, nothing.
Originally posted by Galan007
At the peak of his amp(when he was fully bulked up), Superman was several orders of magnitude beyond his 'standard' levels.As the scans mention: even at the very beginning of his amp, Superman was using as little effort as possible, yet still stated he was stronger, faster, and more powerful than EVER before. The same Superman compared his lightest touch then with his most powerful haymaker before the amp.
...And again, that was just the beginning of his amp. By the end he'd become VASTLY stronger still -- to the point where even when he allowed Parasite to absorb "as much energy as ever before", it didn't even begin to start draining him.
Regardless, I'm sure carver will rush in soon and 'thumbs up' the shit out of your post, cuz Hulk. *sighs*
👆
I forgot about the Parasite example. That changes my measurement. That does indicate a bigger jump than I expected, but that also depends on what the energy limitations are of Parasite. It could be enough to make this more competitive, or it could be irrelevant. The multiples that we are dealing with here are pretty large. I unfortunately have an amalgamation of Parasite in my head, and don't remember his power levels of that era specifically unfortunately.
