Honestly, Sam Jack in AotC wasn't doing all that impressively. All of Mace Windu's hype comes from out of the movies. His killing of Jango Fett is pretty slow and just makes Fett look unimpressive, and his duel against Sidious is slow-paced outside of a scene with a stunt actor and a scene with a CGI Sheev. Going purely on movies, Vader os way more impressive in terms of choreography.
Now, taking sources from outside of the movies into consideration, Windu is substantially more impressive. He's clearly got a speed edge on Vader, but it's hard to say who has a skill edge. We've got plenty of evidence of Vader tanking lightsaber strikes, so he gets a solid durability edge. Overall, I'd say as physical combatants, they're close to even. Vader has more wins under his belt right now, but Windu has beaten Sidious in a duel, so I'd say they're at least comparable.
Where this really becomes Vader's game is when we address Firce powers. Vader is the Chosen One. His potential in Canon doesn't appear hindered the way it was in Legends. Vader's pre-Empire showings of power have a magnitude to them that puts anything we've seen from Mace to shame.
So, in round 1, I can see it going either way. Round 2, Vader, no contest. Round 3, Vader for a solid majority, but not easily.
[QUOTE=16684247]Originally posted by Underachiever59
Now, taking sources from outside of the movies into consideration, Windu is substantially more impressive. He's clearly got a speed edge on Vader, but it's hard to say who has a skill edge. We've got plenty of evidence of Vader tanking lightsaber strikes, so he gets a solid durability edge. Overall, I'd say as physical combatants, they're close to even. Vader has more wins under his belt right now, but Windu has beaten Sidious in a duel, so I'd say they're at least comparable.
Sidious threw the fight to get Anakin’s trust you know
can't use Windu vs Sidious as an example because Sidious threw the fight
And I dunno what choreography youre watching but his movement and skill in AOTC dwarfs slow ass Vader who can barely move.
Also Mace has plenty of Force feats that put him up there; like the time he scattered an entire battalion of droids surrounding him
Also using Force wave to such an extent that he outright destroys droids rather than just throwing them back
He manhandled a walker with ease on Ryloth
Not to mention Shatterpoint ability
Originally posted by relentless1made would win only due to shatterpoint,
can't use Windu vs Sidious as an example because Sidious threw the fightAnd I dunno what choreography youre watching but his movement and skill in AOTC dwarfs slow ass Vader who can barely move.
Also Mace has plenty of Force feats that put him up there; like the time he scattered an entire battalion of droids surrounding him
Also using Force wave to such an extent that he outright destroys droids rather than just throwing them back
He manhandled a walker with ease on Ryloth
Not to mention Shatterpoint ability