Originally posted by NibedicusIf that’s true then about 1.8 times more.
Actually, Hulk took a barrage of GAU 12 25mm shells (like they were spitballs).Those would have about 2x the muzzle energy of a Vulcan. So he took 600 million tons? 😱
Originally posted by h1a8
I guess I'm not surprised that no one here knows the difference between Force, Power, momentum, Kinetic Energy, and Pressure. These terms are all the same to the ignorant. The fact that you guys are quoting 313 million tons (a unit of force) proves it.The 313 million tons [b]per square in
was units of pressure,not force. In the same post I clearly stated that the AVERAGE stopping FORCE was about 221 tons. Guess how much pressure a hypodermic needle exerts if it just laid on your skin upright (basically under the force of its own weight)?
55 tons per square inch. Don't forget that this is units of pressure (not force). The force would be its own weigh (about 2 Newtons). [/B]
And thus is h1's tactics are exposed. He searched for units of measurements he can manipulate/misrepresent to make something more impressive/not as impressive as it actually is. Kinda like using temperature to downplay "full force of a star". It's a weasel tactic. But what can one expect from a troll?
@h1: And yet your unit of pressure "math" is irrelevant as a) we don't trust your math and it looks like it is laden with assumptions and until you can refer us to a qualified source, we would just be free to ignore you and 2) there is no direct quantifiable "feats" or frames of references as that is a unit of measure that people are not willing/unqualified (and don't flatter yourself, you're not qualified to use it as well) to use. You might have well have said 2000 zillion billy-mikkies.
We have the correct value (42k foot-lbs) that everyone can extract on their own from reliable sources as a unit of measure to compare "feats" to use as a basis for their arguments. Especially since this is the unit of measurement for commonly used by ballistics experts in determining a weapon's effectiveness.
If you were a "scientist", you would have no objections to people referring to something they can actually use for a debate. Sadly, since you are a troll, most likely you will.
Originally posted by h1a8
If that’s true then about 1.8 times more.
But how do you know it was a GAU 12 with 25mm shells?
What movie is this from, the first avengers movie?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-12_Equalizer#GAU-22/A
To be more accurate, it uses a GAU-22A a 4-barrel version of the GAU-12. It has a slightly lower rate of fire but is more accurate.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't have to prove your numbers are wrong, you have to they're correct. unfortunately for you, anyone can google the specs of a 20mm round and see that you're lying.
Googling the specs will not disprove that the center of gravity will travel approximately an inch before its stopped in a particular bullet that the Vulcan shoots.
Enlighten us. Use the specs to show that I'm lying.
Lets see how smart you are.
h1, why are you trying to waste everyone's time with your BS "math"? It is meaningless and everyone can just ignore it until you link us to a valid source that corroborates your math (since you have no credibility).
I mean I'm sure trolling is fun once in a while but it seems like it's a full time job for you. Are you paid to generate traffic for this forum by annoying people enough to respond or something?
You know that in every circle that discusses aircraft mounted weapons, it is widely accepted that the Vulcan cannon is seen to have pretty shitty penetration vs armor right?
I mean spend some time and google, read a bit and learn something for once.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
h1, why are you trying to waste everyone's time with your BS "math"? It is meaningless and everyone can just ignore it until you link us to a valid source that corroborates your math (since you have no credibility).I mean I'm sure trolling is fun once in a while but it seems like it's a full time job for you. Are you paid to generate traffic for this forum by annoying people enough to respond or something?
You know that in every circle that discusses aircraft mounted weapons, it is widely accepted that the Vulcan cannon is seen to have pretty shitty penetration vs armor right?
I mean spend some time and google, read a bit and learn something for once.
A physics book is the source of the science and equations.
I dont have to have any credibility. I asked everyone to check everything out with an expert. I gave a site where hundreds of physicists respond to questions. You can PM anyone of them.
Originally posted by h1a8
A physics book is the source of the science and equations.
I dont have to have any credibility. I asked everyone to check everything out with an expert. I gave a site where hundreds of physicists respond to questions. You can PM anyone of them.
Lol. So you want us to do the proving of your work for you? Typical. No one's got time for that. How about we just disregard everything you post until you provide corroborative sources? And a simple physics book is meaningless, you have to provide sources where the assumptions/values, methodology and results you posted are corroborated, seeing as I was able to do so easily (for my own values). Took me 30 seconds, seriously.
How about you have one of those physicists come here, let him show his credentials and he can explain it to us. Since you, we don't believe you. You're a troll.
Originally posted by h1a8
You are claiming they are incorrect. You must prove it.
See, here's the thing you are stuck on - Nobody here is going to do the legwork of proving your numbers wrong. You have to prove that they are right. Your numbers are your claim, and people have asked you to back them up with evidence. Nobody has to prove your numbers wrong as they are not irrefutable fact - you have to corroborate that your numbers are correct by way of evidence. This is how burden of proof works, and NOBODY is going to change this system to suit your needs.