Originally posted by h1a8
If I honestly believed that Thor was aircraft bullet proof then I would say Thor wins this.
The thing you are mentioning had more validity back in 2012 when Thor's only other appearance besides Avengers was in 1 movie(for half of which he was powerless). He has way more feats since then, 2 more solo movies and 2 more Avengers movies.
I see titanium got an upgrade:
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Here is about 1.5 inches of titanium stopping an armor piercing 20mm round
YouTube videoI already showed the titanium plate stopping a superior tungsten round as well.
The hardest Titanium has a minimum bnh of 334, which is a far cry from a bnh of 600, which is 132 tons psi.
https://alcobrametals.com/guides/titaniumAnd here's a study where a bunch of plates stopped 20mm and 1/2 scale 30mm bullets as long as they were heated and reformed, as opposed to rolled at 1.1 inches.
The hardness of these steel plates at 1.1 inches ranged from 48 to 53 on the RHC scale. Which is about 460-534 in BNH if I'm doing that right. 48.5 is 101 tons psi.
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a284904.pdf
Though it's funny how NOW I've posted proof when he thinks he could use it. Yet he ignores it when it specifically goes against his point.
Didn't even fukking pretend it existed when it was used against him.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
I see titanium got an upgrade:Though it's funny how NOW I've posted proof when he thinks he could use it. Yet he ignores it when it specifically goes against his point.
Didn't even fukking pretend it existed when it was used against him.
Because h1 is a troll.
One of his go-to MO's is to hassle the other side to provide proof (while he sits back and does nothing close to the same effort to prove his assertions as he will simply use his opinions or manufactured math as some sort of self-proclaimed indisputable proof.).
Then if you take the time to do so, he either hand-waves the evidence away or downright ignores it or he manufactures an entirely arbitrary criteria to create ambiguity on the evidence. Or he simply moves the goalposts, re-word his assertions and ask for more proof or abandon his assertions entirely and make and make up even more garbage he will proclaim as truth unless more evidence is provided and the cycle continues. He has quite the repertoire of evidence avoidance built up from 10 years of trolling experience it looks like.
He can do this because he doesn't care if he is right, doesn't care if he is able to convince anyone and doesn't care about the truth or his credibility. He would rather be seen as the town idiot and be used as a punching bag in debates over and over for as long as he doesn't have to accept that Thor > Superman.
His purpose is to lowball and to troll. He cannot properly achieve the former so he will just continue to do the latter.
He is a waste of time for everyone involved.
Edit. Of course, mocking him and counter trolling him is fine and dandy as a use of time as we are all enjoying the laughs he provides us.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Because h1 is a troll.One of his go-to MO's is to hassle the other side to provide proof (while he sits back and does nothing close to the same effort to prove his assertions as he will simply use his opinions or manufactured math as some sort of self-proclaimed indisputable proof.).
Then if you take the time to do so, he either hand-waves the evidence away or downright ignores it or he manufactures an entirely arbitrary criteria to create ambiguity on the evidence. Or he simply moves the goalposts, re-word his assertions and ask for more proof or abandon his assertions entirely and make and make up even more garbage he will proclaim as truth unless more evidence is provided and the cycle continues. He has quite the repertoire of evidence avoidance built up from 10 years of trolling experience it looks like.
He can do this because he doesn't care if he is right, doesn't care if he is able to convince anyone and doesn't care about the truth or his credibility. He would rather be seen as the town idiot and be used as a punching bag in debates over and over for as long as he doesn't have to accept that Thor > Superman.
His purpose is to lowball and to troll. He cannot properly achieve the former so he will just continue to do the latter.
He is a waste of time for everyone involved.
Edit. Of course, mocking him and counter trolling him is fine and dandy as a use of time as we are all enjoying the laughs he provides us.
Seriously though.
It was made clear that Thor could be damaged from those bullets.
And you guys are spouting opinions about certain showings proving Thor is resistant to the most powerful bullets. Use some form of proof (science, math, etc). Otherwise it's just your opinion.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'll go a different approach.
Bran posted proof that such bullets CAN penetrate 3 inch thick titanium.Post me evidence where Thor endured something that can either punch (with force) a hole through 3 inch thick titanium or can break a slab of it.
post this so-called proof that shows bullets can penetrate 3 in thick titanium.
Originally posted by h1a8
Ad hominem isn't debating.Seriously though.
It was made clear that Thor could be damaged from those bullets.
And you guys are spouting opinions about certain showings proving Thor is resistant to the most powerful bullets. Use some form of proof (science, math, etc). Otherwise it's just your opinion.
I wasn't talking to you.
Trolling isn't debating, either.
Everyone here accepts the evidence. As it is obvious that massive explosions (and being in ground zero of one) are far more destructive than aircraft bullets. Where a missile with under 150kg warhead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-65_Maverick) can actually take out a Heavy Battle Tank while an A-10 would need to hit it in either treads or it's engine to score a kill.
Real world facts > you.
We just don't use fake math pseudo science pretend knowledge.
Originally posted by Nibedicus👆
Because h1 is a troll.One of his go-to MO's is to hassle the other side to provide proof (while he sits back and does nothing close to the same effort to prove his assertions as he will simply use his opinions or manufactured math as some sort of self-proclaimed indisputable proof.).
Then if you take the time to do so, he either hand-waves the evidence away or downright ignores it or he manufactures an entirely arbitrary criteria to create ambiguity on the evidence. Or he simply moves the goalposts, re-word his assertions and ask for more proof or abandon his assertions entirely and make and make up even more garbage he will proclaim as truth unless more evidence is provided and the cycle continues. He has quite the repertoire of evidence avoidance built up from 10 years of trolling experience it looks like.
He can do this because he doesn't care if he is right, doesn't care if he is able to convince anyone and doesn't care about the truth or his credibility. He would rather be seen as the town idiot and be used as a punching bag in debates over and over for as long as he doesn't have to accept that Thor > Superman.
His purpose is to lowball and to troll. He cannot properly achieve the former so he will just continue to do the latter.
He is a waste of time for everyone involved.
Edit. Of course, mocking him and counter trolling him is fine and dandy as a use of time as we are all enjoying the laughs he provides us.
If h1 was a man he would have gone through with a battlezone but he chickened out.
Originally posted by Silent Master
post this so-called proof that shows bullets can penetrate 3 in thick titanium.
This link tells you that the thickness of the plate is 3 inches and made of titanium.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
But of course, read on and ignore it:
http://www.arl.army.mil/arlreports/2018/ARL-TN-0872.pdf
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Here is Bran showing pictures of the some 20mm and 30mm penetrating
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Anyway, let's use actual facts here. I'm not too keen on calculations so I won't even attempt it, but neither is h1. Here is a plate that has a maximum of 855 (and 862 but didn't do it) megapascals. What that translates into, is 124007 pounds per square inch. Which is 62 us tons psi.They are using 30mm and 20mm.
Anyway, here is the test, yes SOME WENT THROUGH...
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Superman, too, apparently. Since Superman ran away from a 30mm round, right (following your logic, that is)?
When? Post the scene.
I saw a bullet hit him and did nothing.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I wasn't talking to you.Trolling isn't debating, either.
Everyone here accepts the evidence. As it is obvious that massive explosions (and being in ground zero of one) are far more destructive than aircraft bullets. Where a missile with under 150kg warhead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-65_Maverick) can actually take out a Heavy Battle Tank while an A-10 would need to hit it in either treads or it's engine to score a kill.
Real world facts > you.
We just don't use fake math pseudo science pretend knowledge.
You were talking about me.
Getting hit with a missile =/= being in just any explosion.
Just ask yourself, did any of the explosions that Thor was punch a hole or break a 3in slab of titanium? If so then prove it.
Originally posted by h1a8
You were talking about me.
Getting hit with a missile =/= being in just any explosion.
Just ask yourself, did any of the explosions that Thor was punch a hole or break a 3in slab of titanium? If so then prove it.
It blew up the whole Asgardian space ship.
Shall we get out specs for will Durability of real life space shuttles?
Also why are you pretending he didnt get touched by the explosion that blew up Slovakia?
Originally posted by h1a8
You were talking about me.
Getting hit with a missile =/= being in just any explosion.
Just ask yourself, did any of the explosions that Thor was punch a hole or break a 3in slab of titanium? If so then prove it.
Yes, I was mocking you. That was not debating because I wasn't debating against him. Try and keep up.
That is the dumbest, most arbitrary proof requirement I have ever encountered. Basically:
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Then if you take the time to do so, he either hand-waves the evidence away or downright ignores it or he manufactures an entirely arbitrary criteria to create ambiguity on the evidence.
Predictable. No, I feel that my logic that a 150kg explosive attached to a guidance system+propulsion > 30mm shells is sufficient to convince everyone here. Til a non-troll questions it, I have no need to produce any more evidence to a known-troll.
Fact: A-10s use their AGM-65 missiles against Heavy Battle Tanks because their main 30mm cannon isn't as effective/guaranteed to score a kill on hit (even after a full strafe). Because missiles are far more effective. A simple google search will lead everyone to the same information needed if they feel the need for clarification.
It is literally your logic that -> running away from it = writer's intent that it can hurt him.
I literally just proved how wrong your logic is. If you can't get why, then you're either a liar or a moron. Thanks for playing.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
What it did is besides the point. Thor also stood in the line of fire with nothing happening. Point is Superman CLEARLY evaded the bullets being hit once.
Watch, I'll predict what his next reply will be and the flaw behind it.
Basically, it would be him making himself out as the sole arbiter of what the "writer's intent" is.
Bet you that's next.
Normally, I'd wait til he post but at this point he's not even trying to avoid his old know-tactics that I've already listed.