Originally posted by deathslashYeah, he totally gets wrecked by the character who is essentially his kryptonite, given what we know how anti-matter reacts to electromagnetism.
Magneto gets wrecked.
Lol, anyways, even taking all of that into conerner, Mags still can...1
1. Shut down his brain via EM wave.
2. Shut down/fry his nervous system.
3. Kill him via bending iron in blood.
4. Take control of his body and mind via iron in blood.
5. Shut down control over his powers via iron in blood.
and etc...
Mags has too many 1 shot type attacks
Originally posted by MaZeRaIIIthe way you said that, you make it sound like BM is Magneto's kryptonite. I guess getting punched in the face repeatedly is kind of his kryptonite so....
Yeah, he totally gets wrecked by the character who is essentially his kryptonite, given what we know how anti-matter reacts to electromagnetism.Lol, anyways, even taking all of that into conerner, Mags still can...1
1. Shut down his brain via EM wave.
2. Shut down/fry his nervous system.
3. Kill him via bending iron in blood.
4. Take control of his body and mind via iron in blood.
5. Shut down control over his powers via iron in blood.
and etc...Mags has too many 1 shot type attacks
Show some scans of Magneto doing any of that to someone on Ble Marvel's level.
Also, is magneto doing this before or after he gets blitzed by the character that keeps up with Hyperion and Nova?
Originally posted by deathslash
Show some scans of Magneto doing any of that to someone on Ble Marvel's level.
Like Herc?
https://i.imgur.com/bCy0Xo9.jpg
Originally posted by deathslash
Also, is magneto doing this before or after he gets blitzed by the character that keeps up with Hyperion and Nova?
C'mon, man. Even T-Bolts Juggs "kept up" with King Hype.
And Rhino with Nova, lol.
As for Magneto, he actually does have super-reflexes... which not only was stated on panel, but is also supported with feats... remember when he grabbed Northstar by his throat?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWusing magnetism to push Hercules through a roof is not impressive.
Like Herc?https://i.imgur.com/bCy0Xo9.jpg
C'mon, man. Even T-Bolts Juggs "kept up" with King Hype.
And Rhino with Nova, lol.
As for Magneto, he actually does have super-reflexes... which not only was stated on panel, but is also supported with feats... remember when he grabbed Northstar by his throat?
King Hyperion was stated to be depowered and BM has still kept up with normal Hyperion. Also, Thor himself doubts his chances of getting BM....
Using lowballing is not now nor will it ever be the way to determine who wins. Sorry stilt, but Abhi lied to you.
When did magneto do this?
Originally posted by deathslash
using magnetism to push Hercules through a roof is not impressive.
Worked on his very blood, which was what you asked for.
Originally posted by deathslash
King Hyperion was stated to be depowered and BM has still kept up with normal Hyperion. Also, Thor himself doubts his chances of getting BM....
Depowered, how?
Originally posted by deathslash
Using lowballing is not now nor will it ever be the way to determine who wins. Sorry stilt, but Abhi lied to you.
It's ridiculous to assume they operate at high combat speed all the time when there's so much evidence to the contrary.
Not weakened. Traumatized.
And yes, I saw the official preview art, I can no longer delude myself into thinking it was all red herring. It's really happening.
Out of all possible power-ups, they're giving him the ability to heat up his claws. Yes.
And despite of how damn near useless it should be (good for torture though, as shown in Kyle's and Yost's run), we can probably expect him slicing through adamantium next, because FOX. And FOX belongs to Disney now.
Kill me.
@Maz. It's kind of funny that you low ball the team that Adam stood up against, state as if it was a matter of fact that carrying a state sized asteroid isn't much which we both know is bullshit, attempt to dictate what the writers would acknowledge while applying science to science fiction, make it seem as if Doc Green was weak, conveniently forget that Pagan wrecked the Avengers with Thor on it, only to be beaten by Blue Marvel, and there are plenty of other examples, but then won't use the same low balling tactics on Magneto, or at least acknowledge how well he did against a group of teenage X-Men. Oh but let's cast a blind eye on Ares, make it seem as if Wonder Man, Iron Man, Ms. Marvel and Sentry, were fodder characters. Even conveniently forget that Iron Man has armor that can resist Magneto's powers. But by all means, continue onward on the path of bullshit that you've conveniently paved.
Blue Marvel wins.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Like Herc?https://i.imgur.com/bCy0Xo9.jpg
C'mon, man. Even T-Bolts Juggs "kept up" with King Hype.
And Rhino with Nova, lol.
As for Magneto, he actually does have super-reflexes... which not only was stated on panel, but is also supported with feats... remember when he grabbed Northstar by his throat?
The Juggernaut had varying levels of power. Unless the Wrecking Crew in your opinion can beat King Hyperion? Cain was at the mercy of Cytorrak who actively trolled him during that period of time.
Originally posted by Stoic
@Maz. It's kind of funny that you low ball the team that Adam stood up against, state as if it was a matter of fact that carrying a state sized asteroid isn't much which we both know is bullshit, attempt to dictate what the writers would acknowledge while applying science to science fiction, make it seem as if Doc Green was weak, conveniently forget that Pagan wrecked the Avengers with Thor on it, only to be beaten by Blue Marvel, and there are plenty of other examples, but then won't use the same low balling tactics on Magneto, or at least acknowledge how well he did against a group of teenage X-Men. Oh but let's cast a blind eye on Ares, make it seem as if Wonder Man, Iron Man, Ms. Marvel and Sentry, were fodder characters. Even conveniently forget that Iron Man has armor that can resist Magneto's powers. But by all means, continue onward on the path of bullshit that you've conveniently paved.Blue Marvel wins.
To be fair now, O5 X-Men are all after massive upgrades.
Despite that suit, Mags still had the upper hand till he decided to throw the fight.
Originally posted by Stoic
The Juggernaut had varying levels of power. Unless the Wrecking Crew in your opinion can beat King Hyperion? Cain was at the mercy of Cytorrak who actively trolled him during that period of time.
Yes, that's the whole thing. Cain had varying power levels, yes.
Just because WC was able to beat Excaliburnaut, doesn't mean they could do the same thing to Tboltsnaut. Can't see why you brought them up.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
To be fair now, O5 X-Men are all after massive upgrades.Despite that suit, Mags still had the upper hand till he decided to throw the fight.
But he would have the rest of that team digging into his ass if we were to switch positions. Then he one shot Ultimate Hulk. There wasn't even a brief tussle, and Blue Marvel is still suspect of lacking feats that make him an elite top tier despite the shit that has affected top tiers? Call it what you will but that's bullshit from where I'm standing.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, that's the whole thing. Cain had varying power levels, yes.Just because WC was able to beat Excaliburnaut, doesn't mean they could do the same thing to Tboltsnaut. Can't see why you brought them up.
You brought him up as a means of measuring King Hyperion in what seemed to look like you were discounting for the fact that King Hyperion got the tar beaten out of him by Blue Marvel. Which is why I said that Juggernaut had varying levels of power when he faced off against King Hyperion. For all we know he could have been at or near his classic levels.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Juggs - regardless of the incarnation - never had combat speed at the sufficient level to compete with Superman clones [on message boards], that's what the entire point was. It flew over your head.Adam is not speedblitzing anyone, least of all Magneto.
Don't attempt to switch this around Stilt. You brought up Cain as a means of making it seem as if King Hyperion was fighting Cain at low levels when we do not know how powerful Cain was at the time of that fight. We know that he couldn't have been as weak as he was when he fought the Wrecking Crew, or for that matter Rhino, or Sasquatch. So no, nothing flew over my head. And who said anything about Adam needing to speed blitz Magneto. The very idea that he took it to a team of Avengers that would beat the tar out of Magneto collectively should tell you who wins this, and to add insult to injury Pagan tore through a team that was arguably as powerful if not more so than the one that Adam attempted to persuade while they were attempting to KO him, only to defeat Pagan solo.
Originally posted by deathslash
the way you said that, you make it sound like BM is Magneto's kryptonite. I guess getting punched in the face repeatedly is kind of his kryptonite so....Show some scans of Magneto doing any of that to someone on Ble Marvel's level.
Also, is magneto doing this before or after he gets blitzed by the character that keeps up with Hyperion and Nova?
Yeah, because Magneto is Blue Marvel's Kryptonite, - Anti-Matter can be easily manipulated and contained by electromagnetic fields, that's basic science for ya.
On Blue Marvel's level? I see you are one of those people who don't understand what HAX means, level is irrelevant, those abilities classify as HAX type, the character's durability is irrelevant when applying such power, and since Magneto messes with your insides, and your internal energy, it is more so than that.
But on average Magneto has affected.......
Jean Grey - Mind controlling her - https://i.imgur.com/qu4k6RI.jpg
Thor - https://imgur.com/a/z5w5VVa
She-Hulk - https://imgur.com/a/IVydTaT
Hercules - https://i.imgur.com/bCy0Xo9.jpg
Wonder Man - https://i.imgur.com/0dNSVPC.jpg
Bunch of Avengers - https://i.imgur.com/1z41EBc.jpg
Powered up Rogue - https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111275309/5414789-mags+control+brain.jpg
X-Men - https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111275309/6084918-magsxmen.jpg
Punch Magneto in the face? Yeah, good luck passing his force-field, Thor and She-Hulk combined couldn't, Hercules and Ghost Rider couldn't, and so many others couldn't, which include Phoenix, Galactus, Infinity Gem Energy Boosted Selene and etc..
So matching Hyperion, who literally has no FTL or Lightspeed feats, is somehow impressive? That makes BM as best hypersonic.
As for Nova, impressive, except if Nova was not even moving at the speed of light or speeds close to that.
Sure you can classify those as impressive feats, but Magneto has legit multiple lightspeed reaction feats, and electromagnetic senses, blitzing is not an option for BM.
