Hulk vs. Kurse

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because in the MvF, we only use feats that are canon for debating. If you don't believe what you claim is canon, then they are useless for debates here and fall under the category "just your opinion".

So which are they? Do you believe they are valid to be used for debates (i.e. canon) or do you claim they're simply your opinion?

My opinion ofcourse. Isnt that what ive made clear? Perhaps if you were to read before replying i wouldnt have to repeat myself.

There is no canon material to explain God-Mode's ability.

So it's basically my interpretation of the ability based on the scene vs yours.

Except I have a website with thousands of followers to support my interpretation.

So, Ill ask again, do you have canon evidence? If you do ill concede.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The fact that they can be used means that they are valid lol!

False.

Google, Wikipedia, YouTube, and other websites are good for compiling thread data in order to be used for a viable debate, but the ultimate conclusion is simply viable screen feats.

Always remember the MVF Golden Rule: Screen feats only. If it didn’t happen on screen, it doesn’t hold water. Unless explicitly stated, character interpretations are up to debate, e.g. Thor going “god mode” with certain actions and appearances.

Imp just dropped the mic

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
My opinion ofcourse. Isnt that what ive made clear? Perhaps if you were to read before replying i wouldnt have to repeat myself.

There is no canon material to explain God-Mode's ability.

So it's basically my interpretation of the ability based on the scene vs yours.

Except I have a website with thousands of followers to support my interpretation.

So, Ill ask again, do you have canon evidence? If you do ill concede.

Are you and H1 having some kind of competition? A troll-off perhaps?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Imp just dropped the mic

Now let's see if Josh is mature enough to admit his mistake.

Originally posted by Impediment
Unless explicitly stated, character interpretations are up to debate

Thanks Imp.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Now let's see if Josh is mature enough to admit his mistake.

Mistake? Again, where did I say that websites are canon?

I said that websites can be used (valid) to support interpretations.

As I said CLEARLY before, since there is no canon material on the God-Mode ability we got to interpret the feat.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Are you and H1 having some kind of competition? A troll-off perhaps?

Remember its you the one who's been ignoring my replies. And you accuse me of trolling.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Mistake? Again, where did I say that websites are canon?

I said that websites can be used (valid) to support interpretations.

As I said CLEARLY before, since there is no canon material on the God-Mode ability we got to interpret the feat.

Jeeze Josh, just drop it. Imp already stated that they're not valid unless backed by screen feats. The only valid thing we can say about Thor's "god mode" is that it allows him to use lightning without Mjolnir. This is backed up by feats. All your other claims are purely speculation and thus invalid for proper debate.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Jeeze Josh, just drop it. Imp already stated that they're not valid unless backed by screen feats. The only valid thing we can say about Thor's "god mode" is that it allows him to use lightning without Mjolnir. This is backed up by feats. All your other claims are purely speculation and thus invalid for proper debate.

Perhaps if you would have read my replies as I told you to do, you would have avoided all of this.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Perhaps if you would have read my replies as I told you to do, you would have avoided all of this.

I did. You're trying to claim that Thor was able to heal himself after Hulk ground and pound him to make it seem like Hulk was more impressive than Kurse. As has already been stated, there's no proof that Thor healed himself so just drop it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I did. You're trying to claim that Thor was able to heal himself after Hulk ground and pound him to make it seem like Hulk was more impressive than Kurse. As has already been stated, there's no proof that Thor healed himself so just drop it.

Okay, Ill just wait for Nibe to reply. You dont know whats being debated.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

I said that websites can be used (valid) to support interpretations.

IMP has clearly told you they are not valid evidence.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
IMP has clearly told you they are not valid evidence.

Twisting Impediment's words. Really DT?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Twisting Impediment's words. Really DT?

Lol when his response to you begins with “False” you should probably fieat accept the wrong stance youve taken before accusing others of twisting.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
We have already debated this Nibe. There is no way to calculate or to ensure that Thor was hitting Kurse the same way he was hitting Hulk. Also, Thor hit Kurse much less than he hit Hulk.

I've already conceded Kurse being a better fighter/tactician and being smarter. But i can't concede Kurse being stronger or more durable than Hulk. There is no evidence of that, and I've already pointed that the Thor metric isn't reliable.

Your opinion is respected! You want to use Thor as metric that's fine. Am just giving my opinion on why I wouldn't use it.

Featwise, Hulk has bigger feats than Kurse reason why I give him the win. That's my opinion.

Sorry, for the late reply was out all day.

The "we do not know if he is hitting him as hard" argument is pretty flimsy and purely speculative, though. For as long as there are no indications of Thor holding back, we should assume he is hitting as hard as he can. I mean there is actually a greater reason for Thor to be hitting Hulk with less strength (seeing as they are good friends) than there is of Thor hitting Kurse with less strength. The second we go into speculation territory, there basically will be no argument on anything, especially in fiction. Thus, we have to go with best-evidence logic (Thor was hitting Kurse as hard as he can).

I feel like there is sufficient evidence of it, tbh. But if I cannot convince you of it, best to agree to disagree as we're already rehashing old arguments. And I didn't say Kurse was definitely stronger/more durable than Hulk. I maintain the position that he is a peer+ (around the range of Hulk, but likely more).

As for the god-mode debate, I guess Imp made a ruling so I guess that's that about that.

Well, as far as thing go, I can certainly respect your arguments. Anyway, have fun with the rest of the debates. 👆

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay, Ill just wait for Nibe to reply. You dont know whats being debated.

Sure sure, whatever dude. When everyone here including the mod points out you're wrong and you still refuse to admit it, just goes to prove how pig-headed and how much of a sore-loser you are.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Sorry, for the late reply was out all day.

The "we do not know if he is hitting him as hard" argument is pretty flimsy and purely speculative, though. For as long as there are no indications of Thor holding back, we should assume he is hitting as hard as he can. I mean there is actually a greater reason for Thor to be hitting Hulk with less strength (seeing as they are good friends) than there is of Thor hitting Kurse with less strength. The second we go into speculation territory, there basically will be no argument on anything, especially in fiction. Thus, we have to go with best-evidence logic (Thor was hitting Kurse as hard as he can).

I feel like there is sufficient evidence of it, tbh. But if I cannot convince you of it, best to agree to disagree as we're already rehashing old arguments. And I didn't say Kurse was definitely stronger/more durable than Hulk. I maintain the position that he is a peer+ (around the range of Hulk, but likely more).

As for the god-mode debate, I guess Imp made a ruling so I guess that's that about that.

Well, as far as thing go, I can certainly respect your arguments. Anyway, have fun with the rest of the debates. 👆

Pretty fair. Agree to disagree.

Nice debate Nibe 👆

Originally posted by FrothByte
Sure sure, whatever dude. When everyone here including the mod points out you're wrong and you still refuse to admit it, just goes to prove how pig-headed and how much of a sore-loser you are.

You need to improve your reading comprenhension skills, like really bad.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lol when his response to you begins with “False” you should probably fieat accept the wrong stance youve taken before accusing others of twisting.

He quoted an ambiguous statement of mine, which can be false depending on where you look at it.

My argument remains intact