Originally posted by SamZED
Ok, so this is a less creepy discussion than I expected. So let me play the devil's advocate here since I started the thread.Mute people can't say yes either. There are other ways to display interest. Key point you're not forcing the animal to do anything it doesn't want to.
I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusion but all the reasons you listed are pretty terrible and irrelevant tbh.
How many babies tried humping your leg? Killing people is bad because you're violating their right not to be murdered and worn as a mask. Same goes for raping babies. Remove the Ew factor and the Bible fact and you're still left with the fact that you're causing harm (physical or otherwise) to someone.
Meanwhile, this is not the case in the hypothetical scenario I've givven. Which is the purpose of the thread. Considering there's no harm involved, try givving reasons as to why this isn't ok from the progressive point of view. The "live and let live" kind of deal.
That's the point though, that you can move the goalposts for anything in life to make it seem less than what it is. The reasons you took away are pretty significant too. Mainly assuming the person is normal and the 'ew' factor. Just set that aside, just take the dog knot, it's ok as long as you don't think it's ewwy.
A baby sucks anything that goes near its mouth. And murdering and raping people is apparently done under the pretense that you're a normal adult who's doing it in the safest way possible. Lube and smooth that baby up for landing. Drug or quickly murder that person.
But that's following the same exact reason. Maybe that person didn't deserve to live in your eyes? Maybe they were just a waste? Maybe that baby was seducing you and wanted it (I shit you not there's videos on pedophiles who think every boy wants to get plowed). No matter what sick twisted reasons you can come up with, if you simply ignore the worst reasons not to do it, you can justify doing it.
If you ignore the pain that goes away, tell me what's the harm? You're not chopping off an arm or anything and hindering them for life. What's wrong with chopping off an arm, they wanted to become left handed anyway. What's wrong with shitting in someone's food? Set aside the ew factor and it's not like you're hurting them.
Just because you think you can set aside some things, that doesn't make it cool. You could go kill every crackhead in your city, but it doesn't mean it's a great idea. Just set aside the fact that you're deleting people and tell me why it's bad... they're bad too!
You're taking advantage of your dog mostly. Dogs don't fuk for fun like humans, they **** out of instinct. Tricking your dog into going in there is going to likely require some work as well. The dog didn't decide to roll over and put it in your ass. Dogs don't just do shit like that on command. You did or are doing something sick to get to that point.
"Just set aside the ew factor"
No. That's a pretty huge factor and a pretty flimsy reason, like I said above. That's your justification, not a sane person's. You know any sane men that get penetrated by dogs? You hang out with anyone that goes "Yeah I'm just going to grab some milk from the store, maybe grab a 6 pack and watch the game later. You guys want to head over before Rover sticks his cock in my ass later tonight? I told him 'not deep' last time, and he went knot deep! What a weekend that was!"
Even ignoring the ew factor you're a weird fuk that preys on dogs. Why would you expect to be accepted into society when you can't even get a guy to put it in your ass and have to prey on dogs instead?
And if you buy a dog to train it to fuk you and intend to pretend it's normal, I hope you'd be upfront with the people you're getting the dog from.
Among other things.