This issue made it clear that Barr was exploiting the clones' "programming"... Which makes sense given that the files in his library detailed Order 66 and Kamino(among much more.)
Tbh, the issue implies that the clones attacked the Inquisitors because they were former Jedi. But again, that doesn't make sense to me because Vader is also a former Jedi and the clones never turned on him. /shrug
that order 66 thing worked because Bar did a mind trick to the clones too, right? Aniway, it's like the second time they remind us that Vos is still alive, and in this issue it's been implied that Verla may find him and train with him. I mean, Barr told her to go find Kenobi, Yoda or Vos, but I think Vos is the most likely one to be found by her. That is, if they don't completely forget this plot point and just move on as if nothing happened
Originally posted by Total Warrior
that order 66 thing worked because Bar did a mind trick to the clones too, right? Aniway, it's like the second time they remind us that Vos is still alive, and in this issue it's been implied that Verla may find him and train with him. I mean, Barr told her to go find Kenobi, Yoda or Vos, but I think Vos is the most likely one to be found by her. That is, if they don't completely forget this plot point and just move on as if nothing happened
I don't think he did. That even said, it's still dumb because the orders should only be activated by the Supreme Chancellor or Senate.
Even then, still having that order around while they are hunting Jedi is redundant....why do they need an order if what they are doing is hunting Jedi anyway?
Originally posted by Zenwolf
I'm not sure what's more sad. The fact that Order 66 can just be activated like that or that 3 Inquisitors could barely handle 12 troopers.Still...an interesting set of events I suppose.
Thats nothing new in Star Wars. Remember when Ki Adi Mundi and Alaya Secura died to Clone Troopers as well?
Originally posted by TheIndyJedi
Thats nothing new in Star Wars. Remember when Ki Adi Mundi and Alaya Secura died to Clone Troopers as well?
Difference, big difference there.
Mundi had been engaged in battle for who knows how long given the state he was in and he was caught completely by surprise.
Secura was also caught by surprise.
The biggest difference was, they were alone. There were 3 Inquisitors there and it's not like they were surprised by the Order given the comments beforehand. The clones weren't even veterans from the Clone Wars but activated after Order 66 had been activated, so the best that these clones have is the training on Kamino...if that.
Originally posted by Total Warrior
Zenwolf, I believe those were death troopers, they are like special forces. We saw them in action in Rogue one and they were pretty efficient
Those aren't DT no, they are Inquisitor Troopers, an expendable death squad used by the Inquisitors that were activated after Order 66.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Difference, big difference there.Mundi had been engaged in battle for who knows how long given the state he was in and he was caught completely by surprise.
Secura was also caught by surprise.
The biggest difference was, they were alone. There were 3 Inquisitors there and it's not like they were surprised by the Order given the comments beforehand. The clones weren't even veterans from the Clone Wars but activated after Order 66 had been activated, so the best that these clones have is the training on Kamino...if that.
Originally posted by Total WarriorNah, he essentially just exploited a 'flaw' in their programming by activating Order 66:
that order 66 thing worked because Bar did a mind trick to the clones too, right?
It was also stated that the clones would turn against Barr and Verla after they killed the Inquisitors... Which wouldn't have been the case if Barr himself were pulling their strings via a mind trick or w/e.
Originally posted by Total WarriorNope. The Death Troopers were regarded as elite soldiers within the Empire. These were just expendable n00bs:
Zenwolf, I believe those were death troopers, they are like special forces. We saw them in action in Rogue one and they were pretty efficient
*Their armor is also noticeably different from the DT's.
Originally posted by Total Warrior
They are probably average Jedi fodder level, on par with those that we saw dying in the movies against droids and clones. If I recall correclty someone on twitter even said that most of them were padawans, so...
I'm not so sure even that, even Zett was able to get outside the Jedi Temple and kill 7 Clones before getting shot down. Which isn't even taking into account what Clones he might have fought inside the Temple as he made his way out...and these were some of the best veteran Clones in the GAR, not recently activated.
As far as the Arena battle on Geonosis goes in AoTC, honestly I found what we see the Jedi do in the background look more impressive. Heck there's one shown surrounded by at least 6 droids, he cleaves through 3 of them, deflects a bolt from behind and then destroys the other 2.
Oh ok lol, Guess Vader’s training made them weaker rather than stronger. Especially considering that at the end of the day the only who was killed by the clones was Prosset Dib, who was a Jedi master and in the Mace Windu comic has some good combat feats, like cutting through several droids and even destroying a spider droid (not sure if it’s the right name). Working in the archives really made him rusty. Or he still hadn’t gotten accustomed to his new lightsaber