Darth Vader vs. Mother Talzin

Started by RealistRacism2 pages

@Sel
I mean unless Dooku is stronger than Sidious, how is his power alone able to bring Talzin back to physical form at full power? Dooku is still shown to be stronger than Maul as well, so he clearly wasn't fully drained.

Quotes stating Talzin to be almost as powerful as Sidious are sketchy to me, and are clearly contradicted by the SoD showing.

Either we accept Dooku is Sheev+ tier, or Talzin is solidly less powerful than someone weaker than Sidious.

Talzin can at the least keep up with Sidious. She stalled for a long period of time.

She only backed down when Dooku joined in.

I call her around Naga Sadow’s level.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
@Sel
I mean unless Dooku is stronger than Sidious, how is his power alone able to bring Talzin back to physical form at full power? Dooku is still shown to be stronger than Maul as well, so he clearly wasn't fully drained.

Quotes stating Talzin to be almost as powerful as Sidious are sketchy to me, and are clearly contradicted by the SoD showing.

Either we accept Dooku is Sheev+ tier, or Talzin is solidly less powerful than someone weaker than Sidious.

If you take into account the fact that she fought Mace while already dead you realise she evidently wasn’t completely out of power. In fact, I didn’t really realise how impressive that makes her showing against Mace, so thanks for that mmm

Can Talzin make voodoo?

Yeah, but not in the middle of battle.

@Sel
Talzin 'died' after she fought Mace though... She was in spirit form in SoD. She's significantly weaker, basically without power, until she drains Dooku.

Retarded point is retarded.

Yes, she does after she faces him.

But it wasn’t really Mace that killed her so I don’t see your point.

She was in spirit form when she fought Mace*, she just had the strength to solidify when she absolutely had to. Reviving Maul is what ‘killed’ her, it’s made clear in numerous sources that infusing life into his legs and clearing his mind cost her immeasurably.

The point of the Ritual Mace stopped appeared to be returning her to full power. She was draining people of their essences, just like she had to drain Dooku.

*Edit: this is evidenced by the fact she finally dissipates after a minuscule blast that couldn’t even kill a gungan, Talzin blends between Spirit and Material often but it’s fairly obvious she had ran out of her power and this was a last ditch attempt. She was also fading in and out of existence, if you look closely.

Even as a spirit she kept with Mace, impressive indeed.

if Talzin has a vader doll, she wins.

And if she doesn’t?

^I hear Hasbro makes some nice ones.

even if Mother Talzin can not do voodoo, I still think she wins because of her intangibility and Possession