Thanos w/o IG vs. Thor w/o SB

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Thanos w/o IG vs. Thor w/o SB

Basically, this is Thanos vs. Thor without any of their weapons. Thanos does not have the IG or any infinity stones, Thor does not have Mjolnir or Stormbreaker.

This is Thor after Ragnarok, meaning he already has full access to his thundergod powers.

Both are in full armor. Fight takes place in the fields of Wakanda (which is currently abandoned in preparation of this battle).

Thanos destroys him.

Thanos would beat his ass handily.

Thor had full access to his powers at the start of IW and some how lost and Thanos only had one stone. Makes that whole 'not god of hammers' line irrelevant.

Nah, Thor was beat off-screen.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Thor had full access to his powers at the start of IW and some how lost and Thanos only had one stone. Makes that whole 'not god of hammers' line irrelevant.

There's no proof that Thanos faced him one on one fairly. Remember that Thanos already had the power stone at that point (he doesn't have any here), had the Black Order and his entire army behind him, and was shown to have been blasting the Asgardian ship even before they boarded. Plus I doubt Thor would be able to use his full powers while inside an enclosed ship filled with his people. Thus why I made this match.

I posted this in our battlezone but since you seem to be ignoring this from the guys who made the movie one more time.

Here you see the early establishment of just how fearsome Thanos is even without, he has got one stone here and I do not think he is even using it, McFeely said.

He is not using it, Russo said. This is to show that Thanos, the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe, he is unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle. He has conquered thousands of worlds. Thanos is a much more polished fighter than the Hulk, and Thor, and Loki.

Thor is hilariously outclassed by Thanos.

Ps. Russos are the directors of the film. Your imagination does not circumvent how they made the film. They dictate canon not your Thor fetish.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I posted this in our battlezone but since you seem to be ignoring this from the guys who made the movie one more time.

Here you see the early establishment of just how fearsome Thanos is even without, he has got one stone here and I do not think he is even using it, McFeely said.

He is not using it, Russo said. This is to show that Thanos, the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe, he is unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle. He has conquered thousands of worlds. Thanos is a much more polished fighter than the Hulk, and Thor, and Loki.

Thor is hilariously outclassed by Thanos.

Ps. Russos are the directors of the film. Your imagination does not circumvent how they made the film. They dictate canon not your Thor fetish.

We'll discuss this in the BZ. But I don't need to debate this point when you can't even prove that Thanos can breach the Asgardian force field. Besides, in our BZ Thanos won't be facing Thor as Thor is not the heaviest Asgardian hitter. It will be Hela.

Originally posted by FrothByte
We'll discuss this in the BZ. But I don't need to debate this point when you can't even prove that Thanos can breach the Asgardian force field. Besides, in our BZ Thanos won't be facing Thor as Thor is not the heaviest Asgardian hitter. It will be Hela.
Point is they flat out state he is a better fighter than Thor. I am citing their opinion to negate your claims. No limits fallacy and they reached another force field that killed on contact as well. I will not respond to you there until after the weekend at the earliest. Have not even read it and I work.

Are interviews valid in this forum?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Are interviews valid in this forum?

Good point. As there is no mention of them in the rules, I'll assume they're invalid unless otherwise stated by Imp. Because if interviews are valid, it only follows that deleted scenes should also be valid - which they are not.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Plus I doubt Thor would be able to use his full powers while inside an enclosed ship filled with his people. Thus why I made this match.

So you're saying that rather than use his powers he let his people die?

Thor potentially getting his ass beaten by mooks or fodder like Corvus Glaive or Proxima Midnight instead of personally being beaten by Thanos himself is a point against, not in favor of him. Thanos personally beating him up is the most charitable interpretation for Thor, not for Thanos.

The idea that Thor would be inhibited doesn't have much merit tbh. Thor's lightning largely manifested itself in being wreathed in lightning, amplifying his physical strikes, and a few projectile attacks. His only really big AOE lightning blast I recall is when he first awoke them against Hela.

The only argument that has merit IMHO is that Thanos could have used the power stone, but given how Thanos casually dominated the Hulk (who was a peer to Thor at that point in time) in hand to hand and casually no-sold Thor himself, any arguments for Thor are honestly flimsy.

Russo makes it clear.

“He’s not using it,” Russo said. “This is to show that Thanos, the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe, he’s unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle. He’s conquered thousands of worlds. He’s a much more polished fighter than the Hulk, and Thor, and Loki.”

Originally posted by steverules_2
So you're saying that rather than use his powers he let his people die?

I'm saying he'd rather risk fighting without his powers than use his powers and end up killing his people himself.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Good point. As there is no mention of them in the rules, I'll assume they're invalid unless otherwise stated by Imp. Because if interviews are valid, it only follows that deleted scenes should also be valid - which they are not.
The interview unfortunately just corroborates what we already see.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Are interviews valid in this forum?
Russos are the directors but sometimes when someone is flat out so delusional the Russos are required.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The interview unfortunately just corroborates what we already see.
No shit unless you are biased to the point of delusional.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The interview unfortunately just corroborates what we already see.

Which is what, that Thanos is a better h2h combatant than Thor? I don't doubt that Thanos can beat Thor in pure h2h... but I think you guys are not taking into consideration that Thor can use his full lightning powers here. Now if you want to claim that those lightning powers won't do any good against Thanos then that's fine, but at least back it up with some form of proof or logic instead of depending on offhand interview statements and off screen "assumed" fights.

Nothing in the Russo's statements made it clear that Thanos, without the infinity stones, is capable of defeating Thor utilizing his full powers.

Originally posted by steverules_2
So you're saying that rather than use his powers he let his people die?
It is unreasonable on every level. It is frankly laughable.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Thor potentially getting his ass beaten by mooks or fodder like Corvus Glaive or Proxima Midnight instead of personally being beaten by Thanos himself is a point against, not in favor of him. Thanos personally beating him up is the most charitable interpretation for Thor, not for Thanos.

The idea that Thor would be inhibited doesn't have much merit tbh. Thor's lightning largely manifested itself in being wreathed in lightning, amplifying his physical strikes, and a few projectile attacks. His only really big AOE lightning blast I recall is when he first awoke them against Hela.

The only argument that has merit IMHO is that Thanos could have used the power stone, but given how Thanos casually dominated the Hulk (who was a peer to Thor at that point in time) in hand to hand and casually no-sold Thor himself, any arguments for Thor are honestly flimsy.

Russo makes it clear.

“He’s not using it,” Russo said. “This is to show that Thanos, the Genghis Khan of the Marvel Universe, he’s unbeatable in 1-on-1 battle. He’s conquered thousands of worlds. He’s a much more polished fighter than the Hulk, and Thor, and Loki.”

Watching SSJ Thor vs Hulk, would you say they were portrayed as peers?